The Best of Both Phone, and Tablet
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"Thank god for no wide screen" on by deecee
Pros: An actual 4:3 screen ratio
Cons: None yet, but we will see
Summary: One point I have to stress is I absolutely hate the stupid 16:9 screen ratio in a business laptop. I want a 14.1 or 15 inch 4:3 ratio screen, and less and less laptop are available in that form. I don't need to watch DVD on my laptop, I need to see more excel cell up and down as well as side to side, and I like to see a few more linex of context in my word document!! So the birds with the 16:9 screen ratio, at least Thinkpad still recognize there're business user out there need as high a resolution in as small a form factor as possible, and wide screen laptop are crap on airplanes too!! Thank goodness there're still "tetro" style 4:3 screen ratio laptop for poeple who actually work on their laptop instead of using it as a DVD player!!
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"one of the BEST!" on by ebonytyger
Pros: solid as a rock, fast, dependable, keyboard and easy to upgrade.
Cons: graphics card not meant for gaming
Summary: First off, who ever wrote the review from cnet is a HATER! if you read the entire review it is clear that they have no cons of any real substance; the price is damn good for what you get and the screen ratio is all based on personal preference.
i personally love the non widescreen ratio and wouldn't have it any other way. the price i payed for a 2.o d2c processor and 1 gig of ram w/ dvd burn is about $1700. YOU CANT BEAT THAT for a computer thats almost water proof, has a shock detected for the hard-drive, has a STEEL CAGE protecting its internal components, and a flexview screen encased in magnesium alloy....i mean COMMON! this machine is the KING of machines. if it weren't for the restriction in the graphic card department, this would easily be a ten for me.
now the only problem i see with this machine, as minute as it may be, is that there's no option to choose the non-workstation version of the gpu which would be the x1700. for engineers, designers or whomever would make use of a workstation gpu, this is the very best. and i really have no room to complain considering i knew i was looking at a business laptop and not a multimedia one.
Bottom line... before buying this laptop i extensively researched the competition and i correctly concluded that the t60p is HANDS DOWN the best buy for the money especially for someone who plans on actually using their laptop as a mobile computer.
CNET you let me down on this one and what really hurts is that i KNOW you can do better.Updated
are you happy now? to my extreme dismay, wide-screen is now the ONLY option for t60p. the only thing positive about the new direction of the thinkpad brand is the fact that i made my purchase when the standard ratio was still 4:3.
i've had the opportunity to experience both and wide-screen is just way over rated. the t60p is my first 4:3 aspect ratio and i absolutely love it. it's just unfortunate, with the thinkpad 4:3 extinction, that this might be my last non-wide-screen love. -
"Issues with the CNET review" on by roncron
Pros: well designed, a pleasure to use
Cons: expensive (but you get what you pay for), only 3 usb ports, no card reader
Summary: I respectfully disagree with a few points made in the editor's review.
First, the editor's review states that the 4:3 aspect ratio (i.e. non widescreen) is a negative. It is only a negative for people who want a widescreen display. The T60 comes in a widescreen version for those who want it that way. But widescreen is not for everyone, and you can't fault Lenovo for continuing to make non-widescreen notebooks for people who don't want widescreens.
Second, and this is a general problem with CNET laptop reviews, the comparison among different machines is less useful when the machines being compared have different processor speeds, different hard drive speeds, and different RAM. In this review, the performance of the ThinkPad T60 beats a Dell Insiron, but the ThinkPad has a 2.33 core due processor while the Dell has a 2.00 processor. It's not a fair comparison. In other tests, CNET compares a machine with a 7200 rpm hard drive to one with a 5400 rpm hard drive. Probably all of us already know that a faster processor or faster hard drive will yield better performance. What would be useful would be a comparison between a ThinkPad and a Dell (or other unit) with the same processor speed, same hard drive speed, same amount of installed RAM, etc.
Finally, this review bemoans the high price of this particular ThinkPad. I agree. But what the review doesn't tell you is that you can configure this notebook any way you want. CNET bought one with the fastest possible processor, which costs disproportionately more than the second or third fastest processor. You can shave $325 off the price by getting a 2.16Ghz processor instead of the 2.33Ghz, or you can save $525 by choosing the 2.00Ghz processor. In either case, you will still be getting a very fast machine, but at considerably lower cost.
Despite my issues with some aspects of CNET reviews, I am grateful to CNET for all the helpful info at this website. I've saved a lot of money and made better purchase decisions using the info at CNET. -
"so dissapointed" on by 22.smith
Pros: Hasn't lost any data yet.
Cons: Crashes/hangs daily. Not near as fast as the specs would make me hope for.
Summary: I have the Core 2 duo 2.16 and 2GB of RAM, SP Pro. My main gripes are these:
1. The ThinkVantage software is almost universally awful. It's buggy, the auto update service doesn't work worth a damn. It fails repeatedly, once installed a video driver that was 5 major versions old, and caused the system not to even boot. It's been the source of many frustrations.
2. The laptop hangs daily, soemtimes more than daily, and the only remedy is a hard reset. I haven't had such experience since Win95. Lenovo support is always nice, but has never had a single solution. I've given up calling them because their suggestions tend to make things worse, not better.
3. Aside from having lower screen resolution, the $300 Gateway PC I bought from Best Buy for my son is better in every way. It doesn't crash, it is faster, runs VM's more efficiently, and has far superior video performance when using external displays with the laptop.
To say this PC is a disappointment is an epic understatement. It's hands-down the worst PC I've ever had. I've been using Dells for the last 7 years, and was excited to use this PC. I'd heard lot's of good things. I'd like to believe that I just got a lemon, but most of the problems I have are also reported by others on Google; "interrupt Storm" for example.
Anyhow, having given an honest attempt at using a lenovo laptop for a few months, I'm strangely nostalgic for my Dell D610. I've wasted more time than you can imagine keeping this box running right. -
"Works out of the box" on by cmavromoustakos
Pros: Works with Ubuntu (Linux) out of the box.
Durable , was made to last, this thing is tough. This lap top was meant to be carried around, unlike the macbook which needs to be carried in a bubble.
The ability to open the screen a full 180 degrees.Cons: The Black casing scratches easily. Makes it look worn.
They charge you 45$ for replacement software CDs which they never gave you in the first place.
Customer support could be better. Dealt with an angry black women. Not pleasant at all.Summary: This is a laptop, the specs are the same as any laptop, they all use the same materials. Same CPUs same memory. What it comes down to me is the Durability of the casing. While I love OSx I have the hardware, it is made to break so you can spend your hard earned money replacing garbage.
If you like Durable laptops that are dependable, I like Lenovo.
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