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"Bright and Sharp with no ghosting, I'm sold!" on by Stomper88
Pros: No Ghosting, Bright. Easy stand adjustments, PRICE!
Cons: I cant think of any
Summary: I ordered both the 1905FP and the 1907FP and used nvidia to clone so that I could use them side by side and determine the differences. I used DVI cables for both on my 7800GT. I sent the 1905FP back after testing using web pages, movies, and games. The 1907FP is just as good as the 1905FP in quality. I know the 1907FP just a "6bit panel" according to many sites, and I looked really hard to tell the difference, but the quality is the same, both looked very bright and sharp. I guess human eyes cant really count beyond 260k colors, eh?
Anyway, the 1907FP won hands down mostly because in games it has almost no ghosting, while the 1905FP ghosts VERY VERY badly. I noticed the 1905FP ghosting especially badly when I saw it next to the 1907FP. The 1907FP simply blew the 1905FP away for games.
I am very particular when it comes to quality and when I ordered both at the same time, I counted on sending the 1907FP back based on all the reviews I read on the net. But I after about 3 hours of side by side testing, there was absolutely no question which LCD was better. -
"A BIG Disappointment!" on by ohreli
Pros: Bright, Fairly good adjustability (but see below).
Cons: TERRIBLE viewing angles, too dark colors, trouble with lighter shades of colors and greys, not as adjustable as older models.
Summary: I thought I would take advantage of Dell sale prices and upgrade my old 17" 1704fpt Dell monitor. I hooked this up side by side with the old Dell and the difference is shocking! Colors are too dark, and the greys are uneven and tinted--no amount of control tweaking could fix either of these issues. Looking at CNET's color charts, you can see that this monitor does not produce the most subtle, lighter shades across the entire color spectrum. And the adjustability is not as good as my 1704, either. As a budget monitor, I might have lived with these limitations, but the viewing angles are so bad that you are going to be slave to looking at the monitor dead center, or else you will lose at least half the brightness and get a big blurry red haze. Even sitting dead center you will see color shifts between the top and bottom of screen because of the narrow vertical viewing angle. Believe me, it's bad! (Even CNET admitted to this, though I am surprised they didnt dock the monitor more points because of it.) Next to this monitor, my 1704FPT looks like it must cost twice as much (it cost the same). Standing diagonally from both monitors, its night and day--and there are times you want to see the monitor without having to position yourself SO precisely! The online "buzz" is that the 1905 was way better, so if you really want to stick with Dell,and want 19", look for the 1905. It is worth the extra money, and maybe you can find one refurbished. If you want to settle for a monitor this bad, you can get no-name ones for less. The name Dell isnt worth the extra bucks if you are getting an inferior product!
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"Bad, bad, just plain bad, a step backwards for Dell" on by patdb2300
Pros: sleek look, impressive when turned off
Cons: absolutely ugly when turned on
Summary: When I turned the monitor on I thought something was wrong and maybe this was just a defective monitor. I use a 1905FP at work and thought the 1907FP would be an improvement. After reading forums after forums, I have realized that the monitor is just crap. Where should I begin?
1. Ultrasharp, lol, how bout Ultranot, or Ultrablur. Moving my eyes around the monitor reading text is a nightmare, and my eyes strain so much trying to focus on the "ultrasharpnotness" I'll be blind in a week.
2. Is the brightness supposed to be so darn bright? Heck, a black screen shows brightness coming out from the top and bottom. The bottom edge of my screen looks like it's max bright and ther's fog over the text, and my brightness level is at 0.
3. Why does Dell say that the monitor has 700:1 contrast but it really is 500:1? Never like manufacturers being deceitful. And yes there is a viewable difference between these ratios, just look at a photo.
4. All my picture look ugly now, and photos are just miserable looking. If you are into any type of digital editing, or simply like to like at photos, stay far away from this monitor.
4. I hate the controls on the bottom, their a pain to try to navigate, like I'm supposed to intepret a - or + sign means left, right, up or down.
5. The monitor stand is wobbly, and if you plan on using this in an office setting, you almost feel like you are going to break it if you have to move the monitor from a fixed position. The 1905FP at my work feels industrial and easily moves around so I can show clients the screen.
6. So now I have to box this thing up and send it back. Gotta love the fact my 6 year old 15.8" viewable CRT is more brilliant and sharp looking than this piece of crap.
I'd rather pay $100 more for a better monitor than settle for this peice of junk. Saw the nice looking Opticlear NEC's, and wow I think they will be getting my business. Dell your on my @$%^ list. -
"Which panel will you get?" on by bricneter
Pros: May depend on panel
Cons: May depend on panel
Summary: For those considering the 1907fp, be aware that Dell seems to be using LCD panels from 2 different manufacturers for this monitor. It seems you may get a monitor with either an AUO panel (see http://www.auo.com/auoDEV/products.php?sec=monitor&func=info&product_id=62&items_id=1) , or a Samsung panel (see http://www.samsung.com/Products/TFTLCD/Monitors_n_Industrial/LTM190EX/LTM190EX.htm) . The trouble is, the panels seemingly have very different specs, and hence this could have a difference on user experience. You won't find anything about this on the Dell site. Do some research on various forums on the web and you'll find out more debate about this.
So, the question is, which panel was in the monitor used in the CNET review???
If there was some way to contact the CNET editor/reviewer, this would be a good question to ask them -
"Great LCD for this price range" on by kryth
Pros: Fast, no ghosting, decent picture, great design and convenient USB hub
Cons: Supposed 6 bit color, unsure of contrast 500:1 or 700:1
Summary: My screen had no dead pixels, which is great.
Played a few high fps games and didn't notice any ghosting, so the 8ms seems pretty good for my gaming needs. I also watched an action movie from DVD and it was great. No ghosting, and I did not notice any color blocks.
The screen is quite bright, so when reading text with white background, I've got it set to 60% brightness. My old Viewsonic CRT 19" was set to almost 100% brightness but the 1907FP at 70% was burning my eyes.
Too bad it does not have any preset modes, or easy access to brightness. You've got to fumble to the menu to get to the brightness which is a pain if you want to do that frequently.
I'm using the DVI connector on an NVIDIA 6600GT. Nice that there are both DVI and Analog VGA ports.
I thought text was pretty readable before, but after setting XP to use ClearType effects for the fonts (and lowering brightness to 60%) made text much better.
With the NVIDIA drivers, after going through the Display Optimization, colors seem pretty decent. I think the default settings are quite a bit off, so do try to adjust colors/gamma.
I've read people complain about the whole 6 bit vs. 8 bit colors. I'll take the 6 bit, fast response rate over the 8 bit, slower response rate. I can't really tell the difference, and if the only way to tell any color discrepancy is to put it next to another screen to compare, then it's not an issue, because my desk isn't a show room with several screens.
Of course since I'm not a graphic artist or the likes I don't need the high end color accuracy, but this may be a factor for some people.
The built in 4 port USB hub is a nice bonus. The stand is visually attractive, better than most screens in this price range. The vertical rails slide up and down very smoothly. Contrary to the review, I did not have to hold the base for either height adjustment, horizontal rotating or angle changes, unless you do it vigorously. As for the screen being wobbly, well it is wobbly compared to a 19" CRT, but I think it's pretty good for a 10 lbs LCD. I have a 17" Samsung LCD and a 17" NEC that are both just as "wobbly", if you want to call it that.
I was worried about the viewing angle, but since I mostly use it strait on, it was not a problem.
At fairly steep angle, the only thing I notice is that it's not as bright. I can still read the text perfectly, so it's fine for working with a colleague. I doubt I (or anyone else) would play games, watch movies or work with it on a regular bases at steep angles.
As for the actual panel inside the screen, there's the rub!
Pressing the Menu and the + key while powering on shows you the panel model under menu's Factory Reset - Factory.
Mine was a:
Model: 1907FPt
Panel: AUOM190EN04 V4T04
I wonder what the t is for? Dell's support site lists a 1907FPt and 1907FPc
It seems some people got a Samsung SMG LTM190EX panel some AUO M190EN04 panel.
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TFTLCD/Monitors_n_Industrial/LTM190EX/LTM190EX.htm
http://www.auo.com/auoDEV/products.php?sec=monitor&func=info&product_id=62&items_id=1
The AUO site lists the panel as 500:1 contrast, 270 brightness. Samsung lists theirs at 1000:1 contrast 300 brightness. Dell site lists the 1907fp as "up to" 700:1, 300 brightness.
The specs on the Dell CD that came with the screen say 500:1 contrast.
Oddly Dell and CNET's site use to list the 1907fp as a 500:1 and in the last little while Dell updated it to 700:1. When I bought mine, it was listed as 700:1.
Makes you think they have 2 versions with 2 specs, depending on the panel you get.
I'm still undecided if I want to give them a call for an exchange due to the 500:1 to 700:1 issue.
I'm not sure I'd notice it, nor do I want the risk of getting some dead pixels, but I'm definitely not happy about the confusion of not being sure if I got 500:1 or 700:1.
This is my first Dell purchase and I was considering migrating my company's standard from IBM to Dell, but this makes me worry that I'll get inconsistent products. With 200+ workstations and 20+ servers I'd hate to have to guess at what I'm going to get.
Otherwise, for the price (bought it on a Dell Day sale) it's a good buy. Nice picture quality, good performance, bonus built in USB hub and looks good makes this a good choice.
I'd rate this a 9, but I'm docking 1 point for the contrast ratio confusion.
If you're prepared to get either 500:1 or 700:1 contrast buy this screen. If the contrast ratio is the main reason for getting this, you might want to think twice.
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