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Dell UltraSharp 2007FP

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  • "One Model, Two Displays? The DELL LCD Inconsitency Conspiracy; Is it IPS or PVA?"
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    on by soupyhotness

    Pros: Great value, lots of features. BRIGHT no matter which one you get.

    Cons: 2001-2005 stand was better. Two different types of LCD used, banding issues with older models. Flush panel buttons suck a little.

    Summary: Side by side (both cloned in DVI-D) I found two “identical” 2007FP monitors to be very different, and in fairness to the consumer they should not share one model number.

    You better watch out, DELL plays a dangerous game with their LCD monitors. Some people go so far as to call it a bait and switch scheme, using expensive high quality LCD panels for the initial product release (and initial reviews), then silently switching to lower quality LCD panels later in production for the bulk of the consumer run. There is no question of *if* they switch the panels, it’s an absolute matter of fact that they do. The question is why do they do this and not inform the consumer? Well guess what, I’m not going to get into that. Nice intro, eh? This review is about two different versions of one monitor.

    If you don't know a lot about LCD technology, you will need to at least understand the meaning behind S-IPS and S-PVA to figure out what’s going on (scroll down a bit to ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PANELS). These are two different LCD technologies representing two very different manufacturing techniques--and two very different display styles.

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    2007FP S-IPS and S-PVA compared:

    2007FP (S-IPS)

    I am now using the 2007FPb A03 S-IPS version (LG.Philips LM201U05) as of this morning as my primary monitor. It is right on par with the 2001FP (also S-IPS) it shares the desk with. Putting the S-IPS 2007FP in “Mac Mode” gives it a slight edge over the 2001FP. Everything about the image is beautiful. Text is sharper than the 2001FP, which has a thicker kind of “cleartype” look to it but is softer overall. Color is slightly better on the 2001FP, but the viewing angle is much better on the 2007FP S-IPS. This version of the 2007FP is a great monitor.

    2007FP (S-PVA)

    I just passed off a the 2007FP A03 S-PVA version (Samsung LTM201U1) to a co-worker. I found the S-PVA panel was useless for determining shadows and highlights, and I had to move my head left to right to see the entire range of the screen. It did look more intense dead-on than the S-IPS version (like an X-brite/Truelife display), so my co-worker preferred it for her windowed office. The colors were bold but inaccurate, and subtle shading or gradients were not always visible. This panel also has a more apparent “screen door” effect than the S-IPS panel. 90% of my daily work is in the Adobe CS2 Suite in a light-controlled room (as in I got no window but I make it sound good), so the PVA version wasn’t good for me. Bold and bright it is, soft and beautiful it is not.

    Also: 2007WFP/FP users UPGRADE YOUR FIRMWARE or ask DELL for a trade if you have the “banding” issue (A00-A01), it is a problem with a solution.

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    ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PANELS:

    Google a few things: "A Little bit on LCD's", "DELL Censors Panel Lottery Info", “LCD Shootout: Dell versus Apple”, and “Got my replacement 2007s and took lots of pictures”. Also look up “Liquid Crystal Display” in Wikipedia.

    Put very simply:

    ---S-IPS---
    (DELL uses the same LG.Philips S-IPS panels Apple uses in their Cinema displays) have superior true color values, the most consistent image (highest viewing angle), and creamy smooth contrast, and are *the choice* for photo editing and graphics work. S-IPS image quality looks as close to a CRT as an LCD can get. Not the absolute brightest or fastest of the lot, but it’s generally considered the “best.”

    ---S-PVA---
    “WOW Factor” monitors. Extremely intense, bright displays with high contrast. These have a harsh appearance compared to S-IPS but have the deepest blacks and brightest (glaring?) images of all LCD types, so they are well suited to handle various lighting conditions. A good choice for movie watching, these are the panels typically used in HDTVs as they are cheaper to manufacture and usually blow people away in brightly lit retail showrooms.

    DELL frequently assembles same-designation monitors using either panel type (general rule of thumb ASOI seems to be lower quality in Europe, UK and Canada, higher quality in the USA, Asia and Australia). So what should be two separate models are sold as one, sometimes depending where you purchased it, sometimes depending when. The 2007FP & 2007WFP both exist with four revisions to date (A00-A03), and at least five LCD panel possibilities between them. Unfortunately you will probably not know ahead of time which one you purchase.
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  • 7 replies to this review
  • reply on February 17, 2010 by mikerjohnson

    RBinny, that doesn't change the fact that it is a bait and switch. IPS panels cost more for a reason. They almost always look better. True, many people won't notice. I wouldn't call it dishonest because Dell usually doesn't specify which type of panel is used on their website. However, when reviewers get one type and consumers may or may not get the same, that is definitely shady.

  • reply on June 16, 2009 by dcwornock

    I called Dell and told them I want to order the 2007FP if they would furnish it with the S-ISP panel and was told they have no way of selecting which panel I receive. I am now looking at alternet suppliers but many are shipped directly from Dell so that may not work.

  • reply on January 10, 2009 by furball4

    RBinny, you are correct that both panels meet the published specs. There's just a lot more to panel performance than is laid out in the specs of any company. Color reproduction isn't about a number - it can't even be flattened down to a gamut percentage. There are a dozen "fit and finish" performance items that have a huge impact on the quality of a panel that never show up on a spec sheet. soupyhotness is saying that they do show up in reviews, and when Dell switches panels after all the reviews get written, it's a questionable move.

  • reply on August 19, 2008 by frailerhome

    Well, I've learned a lot in the last year about panel types, [I'm in prepress], and I don't like the idea of the Dell lottery either. IMO, the question of panel non-disclosure is one of the great scams in relatively expensive items being perpetrated on buyers.And Apple is in the same ballpark on this too!<br>Am thinking of getting an NEC 2090UXi from a colour management guy who gets the tested top 20% of panels from NEC, and sells the Colour management with it. About $1250 here in Oz. I've tested this display and was impressed with its A-TW-IPS panel. But, it HAD to be calibrated with a puck and software.

  • reply on August 2, 2007 by vcstein

    Great article and it was very informative. Where do you find this information as to whether it is a S-IPS or S-PVA. Is it on the box, paper work - or is this info on the monitor? Please advise. Thanks as I am buying one second hand.

  • reply on May 25, 2007 by HNASSIF

    the same IPS panel of this monitor is used in HP LP2065 which I decided to buy.

  • reply on January 19, 2007 by RBinny

    Hi Soupyhotness,<br><br>Appreciate your perspective but lets be clear about the facts and as a Dell employee I am talking about the facts here:<br> http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/monitors/en/spec_2007wfp_en.pdf <br><br>These are the specs for the flat panel you referenced. While we work with various suppliers to meet global demand the fact remains that the flat panel a customer buys and the one a reviewer reviewed will meet or exceed the minimum specs that are on the link noted above. All flat panels are subject to our rigorous performance and quality tests to ensure performance meets the standards listed.

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