Cowon iAudio M3 (silver, 20GB, with cradle)

Pros: To Shams: Yes it does support both, I read it in the manual online. You're in luck. This review is meant to be an all encompassing guide to those people grappling with the battle between this and the ipod. It really comes down to preference and willing

Cons: Ok with so many pros on this it is hard to point fingers at negatives. But since I am attempting to be unbiased, here goes: Again, the remote. A matter of preference, do you want it clipped on to you, or do you want to take it out of you're pocket to us