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"Another winner from Creative - so far" on by methos1979
Pros: Excellent audio quality, nice screen, easy to use, great software
Cons: Worried about buttons, front cover could be better
Summary: First up some caveats: I LOVE Creative products. This is my fifth Creative Zen player. I bought a Zen Micro for my oldest daughter and loved it so much I bought one for myself. A year later I bought my youngest daugther a Zen MicroPhoto. Shortly after that I bought my son a Zen V Plus. All have worked flawlessly. I just replaced the battery on my Zen.
Second caveat: I HATE absolutely anything, and everything iPod. I hate Apple, Mac, all of it. While I think a lot of their MP3 players are the bomb looks-wise, their crappy sound and even worse, their proprietary everything just annoys the crap out of me. I loved the look of the new Nanos and if they worked with music subscription sites like Napster-to-go or Rhapsody I might have broken down and bought one. But no.
This was a three pronged approach to this purchase. I was finally jumping on the subscription music bandwagon and was looking for a new MP3 player. I always come here for unbiased professional and - even more important - your reviews. I eagerly awaited the new 16GB version and have had it a couple days now. I haven't done video with it - and I don't know if I ever will. I'm into the music so that's what I use it for. So let's go there.
First up, impressions out of the box. I like the look and the layout. I'm not crazy about the look and feel of the buttons though. They seem... cheap. One guy here had both of his fail a few days after getting it, the left dial one. For some reason, all the buttons when pressed to the left seem to feel like they are rubbing on something - it's not a smooth click. It actually FEELS like it's going to break sooner rather than later. Obviously only time will tell on that. I also don't really like the super-shiny cover that ecompasses the entire top. With the black color, fingerprints are the order of the day with this and I worry also about scratches in the future. But it cleans up real nice with some of those pre-moistened lens wipes. I do like the black look and really like the brushed aluminum back. I would prefer the whole thing be like that except for the screen. Maybe next time. But CNET is right - it does look classy.
The screen color and resolution is great. Pictures pop nicely and I really like the ability to change the backgrounds, although the selections are a little limited. Of course you can always set any picture as the backgroud wallpaper so that opens things up. The menus were pretty easy to learn to use but I went into the online documentation to read up on things and it was well written and imformative.
Software installation was easy as usual and pretty quick. I did go onto the Creative site and look for upgraded firmware (done automatically as part of installation) and sure enough there was already two 'critical' updates to install. But those went on quickly also and two reboots later I was up and running.
The first order of business for me was seeing how well this player functioned with my new Napster-to-go subscription. Napster and Creative normally work very well together and this unit was no different. Napster immediately recognised my player and within a few seconds I was downloading several hundred songs and playlists to the Zen. I'm also planning on doing a user review on the Napster-to-go so look for that if you're thinking of trying it out. I for one, LOVE it. 5 million songs to choose from and more every day.
I bought the 16GB version straight from Creative the day they got them. The earbuds suck but I'm used to that and had other plans anyway - the previously mentioned third prong of this music attack. I did buy along with the Zen the leather case they offered. It was only $25 and looked pretty good but I was dissapointed with it. Truth be told, I'll carry the Zen in my shirt pocket anyway, without the leather case. I might try some of those temporary protectors they sell if I start to notice the screen getting scratched up a little. I tend to take pretty good care of my stuff but this player does not seem or feel as stout as my Zen Micro.
So I downloaded a bunch of songs from Napster and then a bunch more already ripped from my private collection on my computer. I also loaded up a few family pictures. The Zen Media software works very well and is very easy to use. But it's just a simple to go into Explorer and drag and drop or copy and paste stuff in too. Pretty basic and simple stuff.
The player also came with a REALLY short USB cable for both charging and transferring data. I actually like the short cable but I'm sure there are going to be a few that do not. I also prefer a dedicated charger and for the price think they could have and should have included one. Fortunately for me, I got one way back with my Zen Micro and it has always worked with EVERY Zen I've owned - something I am very grateful for. Kudo's to Creative for keeping the same power/transfer connectors on all their models.
Now on to where the Zen really shines - the music. Creative always get's high marks for it's audio quality and this one does not disappoint. The sound quality is AMAZING. This is helped somewhat by my third prong attack - I bought some nice Bose full ear cup headphones. I've already reviewed those at the proper place on this site. The combination of those two are nothing short of astounding. I'll never wear earbuds again. You don't even need any EQ. It's quite amazing. I bought the Bose headphones at Best Buy for $139.00. Pricey but worth every penny and you can spend a whole lot more.
There's plenty of neat features on this player too. Most I won't ever use but it's nice that they are there. The SD expansion slot might come in handy some day if I every do decide to do video but with the Napster-to-go subscription I'm pretty sure my music will be rotating a lot. And with 16GB, I won't need to move too many. I understand that some people are upset that the SD slot memory is not added to the existing memory and I think that's probably a valid point. But it's not a big deal to me because quite frankly I don't plan to carry around more than 4000 songs at any one time.
Probably my biggest thing I like about this player is the Smart Volume feature. One of my pet peeves is the different levels of loudness between older CD's and new CD's. Constantly having to bump up the volume for one song and then have to bump it back down (especially after it hurts your ears) for the next is annoying on so many levels. The Smart Volume when turned on automatically levels the playing field increasing and decreasing volume where necessary to keep the level comfortably the same. This is a God-send to someone like me, an old guy who could be listening to some Jim Croce one moment and then have Nickelback blaring the next! I tend to play the songs on Shuffle a lot so this can happen frequently. My music tastes run the gammut so this feature is the bomb.
In summary, I love the player - so far. If the screen doesn't scratch easily, and the buttons don't fail, and all keeps working as it does now, I'll be very happy. I gave the player an 8. Had the buttons felt better I'd have given it a 9 and had the cover been all brushed aluminum, it would have gotten a full 10. Rest assured I'll keep you posted and you'll be the first to know if something does go wrong. Okay, you'll be the second as Creative will be the first. But for all intents and purposes as of this writing - Creative has another winner on their hands!
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"So close to greatness... but still excellent" on by clintworld
Pros: Price, ease of use, interface, small size, excellent screen
Cons: Limited file format support (podcasts require conversion), SD card treated separately in interface creates inconvenience
Summary: This is an excellent PMP. And I've tried lots. Cowon D2 and I7. Meizu M6. Archos 605. This beats them all... except perhaps the new Sony NWZ-A800 series which I love thanks to its native video podcast (H.264) support.
Creative have done a really nice job with the user interface. Slick and pretty responsive. I like the "DJ" function, great for quick hits. The SD card however is treated as a separate storage unit and is not integrated with rest of the media. Hopefully this will change in a future firmware update.
I also like the standard mini USB cable, the shortcut key that is customizable (nice!), and the vibrant screen.
Overall excellent. Highly recommended. For those looking for video podcast compatibility - albeit smaller screen - check out the new Sony NWZ-A800 series. -
"Only one flaw..." on by scaryslocuda
Pros: Beautiful screen, excellent sound quality, FM radio, decent storage capacity, very good GUI
Cons: Can't record radio
Summary: I was SO excited about this player when I heard it was coming out. So much so, that I waited an extra 6 months before buying a new mp3 player (my previous player was a Creative Zen Micro). Everything I read about this player sounded fantastic, and after receiving it yesterday, I completely agree...almost. The one GLARING problem with this player when compared to my Zen Micro is the lack of ability to record FM radio. I know that other Creative players came under attack a while ago by the RIAA, but I thought those issues got resolved and that newer firmware updates re-instated FM recording. Why the newest addition to the Zen family has to go without this crucial functionality is a mystery to me.
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"Not available yet" on by nycgal
Pros: Looks awesome, Creative makes great products
Cons: Why the delay in releasing the 16GB version?
Summary: I emailed the folks at Creative to ask when the 16GB version is available. I got back a nice response saying it won't be available until mid-to-late Oct. It's expected to be priced at $250. For anyone that's thinking of getting it, I would recommend waiting till the 16GB version comes out - you get double the memory of the 8GB version for only $50 more. I can recommend Creative products, I own the Zen Micro 5GB version and love it, it's over 3 years old and works great! I'm only changing because of the upgrade to a color screen and more memory.
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"No SD integration is a deal breaker!!!" on by 55Mark
Pros: Small, nice features, nice screen.
Cons: not great battery life, and NO SD INTEGRATION
Summary: This could be a wonderful product, but for the fact that the SD slot is not integrated like it is in some Sandisk players and the Cowan D2. Do not buy this product if the SD slot is what you find attractive about it, becase it is not integrated. This means that you cannot access file on the SD slot from the normal interface. You have to to the SD folder, and choose the file there. Your will not be able to search your music in the normal video library, and you will lose your place in the music if you turn the player off or hit the back button. Also, you will not be able to see any album art or other cool stuff like that on the SD card. For a just a little more money, you can get the Cowan D2 and have a mp3 player that is able to grow with your library.
Without the integration, this product is just another could have been. Spend your money on something else.