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"Great sound, poor Windows installation software" on by jbartas
Pros: Great sound for a portable player
Compact
Good battery lifeCons: Sony Installation software corrupted my XP machine.
Summary: I almost hate to give this thing only three stars because it has great
sound and hardware features. One the other hand the software is so bad
it deserves negative stars. But there is a workaround - justuse drag & drop instead of
the Sony install or media software.
Since Sony's famous root kit scandal (Google "sony rootkit lawsuit")
infected thousands of customers computers via Sony software that was
very anti-consumer, I should have know better than to ever
let Sony software run on my PC. But I wanted to get my new MP3 player to
working fast, so I followed Sony's instructions. Bad idea!!! They want
you to plug the Sony into a USB port and then run the install
software that's already in the Sony. I tried this on my old XP (SP2)
machine, and the Sony installation tried to "upgrade" my windows Media
player. There was no benefit to me for this "upgrade", Sony's
"engineers" we apparently too lazy to design an installer without this. Or
maybe they're still trying to infect their customers with rootkits.
Anyway, the install of the new MS media player failed, and in the deal
corrupted my old MS-media player. Since I primarily use VLC media
player the was just just an annoyance, not a fatal problem - but now my
old XP PC has no MS media player. Thanks, Sony :-(
Being stubborn (and a geek) I then decided to examine the Sony MP3 player a
bit more carefully on my work Windows-7 machine. The Sony mounted as a
USB device named "Walkman", but instead of just running Sony's toxic
installer again, I poked around in their file system and found
the music folder. It had a few mp3 files in it, so I decided to see
what would happen if I copied in a few more mp3 files. I did a drag &
drop with windows explorer, the Sony rebuilt the playlist with them.
There they were, playable - it worked! I then select all my mp3 files, about a
100, and dragged them over. Thanks to the magic of USB 2.0, in 10
minutes I had 100 tunes loaded - without running any Sony Windows software. They
all list and play just fine. Why did Sony provide that destructive
install and "Content Transfer" software when you can just drag & drop
files? Why not just tell customers how to load up the files in one easy
step like I did? Write a simple GUI for those who want elaborate
play-lists or auto-synch with an online service, and let the rest
of us just load & go.
Once I had some files in place I discovered the upside of this
device - It sounds great! My kids all have iPods, and this thing sounded
at least as good right out of the box, and at a fraction of the price.
I'm something of an audiophile and plan to experiment with upgrade ear
buds (the ones that come with it are pretty tinny) and maybe a headphone
amp. Just for grins, I put a pair of Sennheiser HD280 studio headphones
on the Sony - and it sounded really good! Like all MP3s the highs where
a bit slurred and mushy, but the mids and bass were clear and as loud as
I could want, even without a phones amp. The dinky Sony could drive the
large form-factor Sennheisers just fine :-). The better MP3s sound
almost like WAV files played on real high-end audio equipment. I'm
optimistic than when I get some lossless formats in there I'll have a
really good sound.
I've tried hooking my kids iPods (Nano and classic) to real stereo
equipment and never had results like this. The Sony/Sennheiser combo
beats the pants off any iPod I've heard hooked to anything.
When I was done setting it up I unplugged the USB I'd been using to
charge the battery, and tossed the player in my backpack, without
thinking to turn it off. That night I got another nice surprise - it was
still playing (4 hours later) and the battery was still fully charged.
I'm not sure how many hours they claim, but I didn't really believe I'd
get more than 5 or so in actual use. I'm now sure I'll get 10 or more.
In fairness to Sony, I must add that we've also had Apple software
nightmares with my kids iPods, like the time one we tried to
"synchronize" and flipping iTunes erased the entire mp3 collection in the PC. She was
in tears! I write software for a living, and bugs like Sony
and Apple have should never get past QA.
Bottom line is this unit will give you great sound for cheap; but you
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"Fantastic music player" on by victork1
Pros: Superb sound.
16 GB at an amazing price.
Equalizer and mega-bass.
Compact and light.Cons: Scratches way too easy (screen and body).
Battery life is a bit short.Summary: I use it for playing music from the folders I create by artist, album, etc.
Sound is SUPERB even with regular ear buds, equalizer and mega-bass do modify the sound a lot, volume can get pretty loud, navigating folders is a breeze.
Don't have to use Sony's software at all. Can rip with any ripper (including WMP), I use Windows MP for syncing, not sure how other software will work, I use Windows Explorer to manage files if needed. Drag and drop DOES support tagging, the only thing that won't transfer is the album cover. Then again, sync it with WMP.
I don't believe the charger is a microUSB, I think it is mini B, which is the one most cell phones use (BB curve 8320, etc). Or leave it plugged to the PC after syncing.
Cases are widely available now (mid December 2009).
Does not feel cheap at all.
Have no problem with the interface at all.
I don't use it for pictures or video so can't comment on that.
The only advice: BUY A CASE AND SCREEN PROTECTOR before you use it for the first time; it is AMAZING how much it scratches. This is the 3rd player I own and I've never seen anything like it (one of the previous I owned was also a Sony, but the case was opaque not glossy like this one). -
"Decent product overall" on by Wolfjunge
Pros: I run Ubuntu and that it was instantly recognized and mounted was great. I like the drag and drop capability. User interface is simple and easy to navigate.
Cons: It only recognizes wma video formats (a real kick in the pants for non Microsoft users). The form factor could use some slimming and Sony's love of proprietary hardware (example: the usb connector) is slightly frustrating.
Summary: The product functions well as a simple low/mid range mp3 player.
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"Dead within 3 months" on by NC_Girl
Pros: Cheap for the storage capacity
Light weightCons: Scratches easily...even with good care, looks like you've dropped 1,000 times
Battery life shortSummary: Playing fine until full warranty ran out! Then it would not come on or anything. It cost more than what is worth to send back and have replaced or repaired.
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"Falls Short on Physical Construction" on by Barbara866
Pros: Great sound, Real USB Connector
Cons: Cheap feel and look
Summary: I got this 16 GB player to replace a 4GB Sony so I would have more room for songs for long trips.
I now note the battery charges much faster than my old Sony MP3 player and the indexing is much faster. Battery life is improved.
The case and feel of this one is cheap; Gone is the solid metal construction and ?heavy weight? feel.
The sound is still good and the round ?shuttle? control is bigger. The screen is about the same; bright and clear.
A subtle, but annoying glitch is gone; the player now handles the MP3 meta tags better. when I used certain software to tag the tracks the first song would be at the bottom of the list, even though the track tag was number 1. This new player now has the song list by the correct track number tag, no matter what software I used to make the tags.
The player has a ?human? USB connector now, instead of the proprietary to USB cable one no one else uses. This makes for easier connections.
The added sleep timer and alarm crowd the track info list.
Updated on Oct 29, 2010
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