"Stunning Picture!"on by drmrw
Pros Excellent Blacks, Compact, Each input has customizeable settings, Nice features for enhancing SD signals. Foward compatible with blue-ray
Cons No memory card slot, VGA resolution (pc input) limited, No Picture in Picture, No Cable card slot,
Summary I have had the set for about a week and absolutely love it! I moved up from a 60 inch Zenith LCD projection and there is simply no comparison. The HD images are simply stunning. XBOX 360 looks fantastic through component video at 720p. I am not exatly a videophile, but I know what I like, and I like this set! There are quite a number of user controls, more than I know quite what to do with yet as I am still experimenting with it. There are probably enough controls for a sophisticated user to appreciate, but not so much that it is too daunting for the average user. I can't speak to how a 1080p image looks because i don't have a blue-ray play yet (sorry). I think a big concern for many people is how the set will handle Standard Definition (SD)images as most cable and satellite are still SD. I found that most of the SD channels were quite tolerable after tweaking some settings. Even my regular DVD's through the XBOX 360 look very very good. HD signals were eye popping to say the least. Not perfect, but nice job Sony!Updated
I've spent some more time with the set and am still very happy with it. No green blobs found on previous versions of this set. The picture is very Bright (too bright on the "vivid" setting) and the off angle viewing is pretty damn good. Until the DVD wars settle down a bit I am using the very affordable Sony DVPNS75H upscaling HDMI DVD player. I was watching Charlie and the Chocalate Factory which is full 16:9 (no black bars) and the picture (for Standard DVD) was postively fantastic! If you want to see all the nits and picks I suggest you check out the AVS thread devoted to the set. The pro's may have some issues with the set, but the concensus among the regular Joe's is quite positive. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=701578Updated
I still love the set. Haven't seen any problems yet. My viewing distance is about 9 feet give or take. The screen is plenty bright even in a fairly well lit room. Am using the Sony DVPNS75H upscaling HDMI dvd player (very inexpensive). Watching Charlie and the Chocolate factory was fantastic! Eye popping colors, and great looking picture, even for SD DVDs. The off angle viewing is also quite good. Haven't noticed any color anomolies (green blobs on the previous model). If you want a complete list of nits and picks and have the ocular fortitude to scan through 65 pages of posts, you can go the avs forum on this model: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=701578 but remember, you were warned! The pros certainly have their issues with the sets and maybe it doesn't de-interlace 1080i the way they want or perhaps the test patterns on their calibration DVDs shows some glaring artifact or inability to properly stimulate their cybernetically engineered eyes, but the average Joe says "me likey picture."
"spectacular!"on by arreview
Pros Simply excellent in HD, best picture I have seen
Cons none for me
Summary I started out looking at DLP and Plasma sets and was just so impressed by the picture I saw on the KDSR60XBR1 in my local stores. After doing some research on the Net, I was convinced Sony was on the right track with its SXRD system. And when I discovered that the KDS-60A2000 was available at a lower price, that was the clincher. I got the set 3 days ago and it is impressive. I have it in a room with 2 skylights and there is no issue at all with picture brightness or glare on the screen. When watching HD channels, the picture is just impressive. No smearing can be detected at all like I noticed on some DLP or plasma models. Watching baseball on this set makes you feel like your on the field with the players! Get an upscaling DVD player to take advantage of the set's 1080i capability when watching DVDs. No comparision between my old Sony progressive scan player ( which output at 480p) and my new Sony DVP-NS75H! It is very very close to watching an HD channel. Much, much better clarity and detail. And on some DVDs you will also get the added benefit of a larger picture. This happened with our DVD of Independence Day. You won't be disappointed with this set!
Pros Amazing colors, more compact housing, bright picture, sharp picture, good viewing angles
Cons Somewhat expensive replaceable lamp
Summary Well, Abt Electronics dropped off my KDS60A2000 today; in short, IT ROCKS!!!
First of all, I would like to state that seeing this set in your home on your own feed (mine is TWC via a HD 8300 DVR) does not compare to seeing this bad boy in the store... it's SO much better. Unfortunately, you won't realize this unless you pony up the bucks.
- This is not directed at any individuals in particular, but whoever thinks that the colors are not great on this set are CRAZY. The family stopped by today and EVERYBODY commented on how beautiful the colors on this set are
- I've had the set off and on a few different times today. Once or twice I did notice a green haze near the left center of the screen on startup but it was COMPLETELY gone by the time the lamp was at full brightness. This does not worry me now; if it gets worse, I'll call Abt or Sony.
- The black levels are among the best I have seen! I'm sure I could improve my blacks even more, but I love a bright picture so the black levels are ever so slightly lighter
- Depending on how you set this TV up, it can be VERY bright. In short, brightness is not an issue with this set.
- The remote does feel more flimsy that the XBR1's, but I think it is a lot easier to find buttons by feel
- I'm sitting at about 12-13 feet away from the screen and the 60" is perfect
- As stated before, SD is not terrible, and it's not great... it's fine. Remember SD televisions can't do HD, and HD televisions are not the best at SD. I bought this set for HD performance folks!
- With a good feed, the image on this set almost looks 3-D
- The speakers in "surround" mode sound great; they can be very immersive if you crank them up (and they are not "Dumbo" ears )
- My set sits on top of a 25" credenza (JSP Industries "Bolero") and there is no brightness dropoff at all
- No fan noise unless the TV is off and it is still cooling down
- No dead or lit pixels; no smudges on the screen
Some obsessive / compulsive tiny issues I noticed:
- As I posted earlier today, I noticed that when the screen is off, the center of the screen is lighter than the left and right sides; I was told that this is normal
- The black plastic rim around the screen has a spot where the plastic isn't uniform; it's color is slightly off. It's not really noticeable though.
- The geometry of the center bottom of the screen might have a slight dip; again, it's not noticeable unless you REALLY look for it
- When Abt delivered my set, I noticed that the box was on it's side. I don't see any issues with the box or the set, so I'm not going to worry about it.
I agree with CNET's "excellent" rating; this one was worth the wait!
"No proper PC input"on by AGZELA
Pros Nice video I am sure
Cons Limit the PC input to 1280x768 via RGB
Summary In my opinion SONY is trying to lock-in the PS3 as the primary HIGH VIDEO quality gaming input on this TV. In the manual it states that you should not connect your PC via HDMI, and then it limits the RGB to WXGA 1280x768. I know for a fact that the new Mits displays have a DVI connection for your PC that allows for 1920x1080. Great TV for viewing HD from traditional sources or your Blu-RAY Player though.Updated
The difference with the XBR and this TV is that the XBR2 will have DRCv2.5 vs DRCv1 on this TV. How it will affect the quality on this TV remains to be seen....
They should have used DRCv2 from last years XBR1Updated
I am not blown away by it like I was with the XBR1 PQ. I noticed a washed out look, I wonder if its the DRCv1 it uses? Grayscales are off, red and green push out of the box, needs extensive calibration. I also noticed that the motion artifacts and video noise are more so than the XBR1. I am going to get a ISF calibration to see if it resolves the issues with the PQ. FYI- The HDMI input work fine with a PC just need to underscan but you will get a better resolution that the VGA input which is limited to 1360x768.Updated
After reporting that the PQ was subpar at best, I had my ISF trained tech come out and this is what he did to make it dramatically better and just as good if not better than the XBR1's
HDMI settings using a Directv HD receiver
1- Set the Color Matrix to Custom and all resolutions to either ITU601 or ITU709 mine are ITU601. (MY ISF guy found inaccurate color with the automatic setting)
2- Set Cinemotion to Auto it helped to clear up the 480I signals a whole lot.
3- Turn OFF all enhancements(CNET recommends this for the XBR1 as well)
4-Go to a 480i signal and change the DRC palette to High Density and MAX for both reality and clarity(top right corner of box)
5- Use power saving mode=on it enhances the blacks without the extra noise from the other options.
These are my Picture settings after ISF (mind you he did go into the service menu)
Picture mode= Custom
Advanced Iris= Auto 1
Color Temp=Neutral (ISF Tech found it to be the closest to 6500K)
White Balance settings=
All I can say is that WOW,,,I am watching Kingdom of Heaven on HBOHD and I can see the blood spurting out of the horses and the knights with such clarity and 3d effect that I am BLOWN AWAY........finally.....
Forget DRCv2.5 on the XBR2 you only really need it for 480i sources which the A2000 has that ability,,,buy the XBR2 because you want an extra HDMI port or because you like the DUMBO EARS....Updated
Where is the USE tab?
Pros Size, weight, appearance, resolution, contrast, brightness, color, sound, inputs, stand availability, viewing modes, user friendly, many options, DRC for 480i signals, all things TV should be!
Cons Can't hang on wall, no casters on stand however sliders work great, when used in an entertainment center without casters/sliders the rear inputs are not very accessible, however this is an easy fix.
Summary This T.V. is everything a new T.V. should be. I've viewed it in bright and dark rooms and in any case the contrast is amazing. The viewing angle is very wide; if you can see the screen, you can see the picture. All resolutions are amazing. I watch HDTV and regular 480i signal on it, DVD's through my XBOX 360 and play a wide variety of games on it and in all cases the performance is perfect. I had a LAN party and fragged all my friends and heard comments like, "How did you see me?"
I can't speak enough about the picture because it is better than all of the competitors. I looked at them all and none compared. For the perfect picture you do need to play with the settings a bit. I leave my power saver off and the picture mode on custom.The contrast is on Auto 1. The DRC is set to max for the 480i signals.
The picture is on max and the brightness and color on 55. the color temp. is neutral and sharppness on max. Black corrector is high. Gamma:max, clear white: high, live color: high; detail enhancer: max; edge enhancer: high.
So there isn't much more I can say about the picture. There isn't one better. The stand that goes with it is nice however it lacks casters or sliders, but a cheap set of angle cut sliders at Wal-Mart works well on carpet. If the T.V. is in an entertainment center the rear inputs are difficult to access and the power cable is short. But the T.V. is light and easy to maneuver, even when strapped to the stand.
My overall opinion of the T.V. is that it is perfect. My only complaint is with the base stand and I see why they didn't slap casters on it. Not everybody wants them, but if the do it is easy enough to put them on. I have no complaints against the T.V. itself. There are plenty of inputs and options, which are user friendly. The massive size is misleading when considering the light weight of the unit. It looks great in my entertainment center and is very stylish (if this is superficial, sue me. This matters to some consumers; in other words it's wife friendly too). If you are considering this purchase, then go for it. If you have an xbox or 360 and xbox live, then get the diamond card and find out what discounts you get at the local stores. I got mine for $2640 the day it came out in Charlotte. Even at the full price of $3699 it is an amazing deal. There is nothing like this T.V. Especially if you have seen Mitsubishi's 1080p or any of the competitor's. Side by Side, you will see the difference and Sony will win.Updated
I read up a little more and adjusted my settings and got better color reproduction with different settings. First I went into advanced settings and turned off all of the enhancements.
Here are the new settings.
Advanced Iris: Auto 1
Picture: 80-Max (I used max)
Color Temp.: Neutral (I do not agree with
CNET's use of Warm 2
Black Corrector: off
Clear White: off
Live Color: off
skip white balance, will add to end
Detail enhancer: off
Edge enhancer: off