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"Doesn't this violate cell user agreements?"
Pros: Nice green box
Cons: Could violate cell carrier user agreements
Summary: I thought this might be of interest to the readers of this forum. This info was posted on the CNET Kyocera KR1 forum. The Kyocera KR1 is very similar to the Junxion box. So user of all these types of boxes could wind up facing the same problems or issues with their cellular carriers.
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Doesn't this violate user agreements?
Post by: ishimatsu on 01/05/06 Next message
I thought this type of application (using an EV-DO card in a wireless router) was expressly prohibited in the user agreements? I believe it is for Verizon. Any word from the DV-DO carriers about this type of device?
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Yes, You Are Correct About Violating Agreements!
Post by: Tom1257 on 01/07/06 Previous message |
You bring up a very good and valid point about violating your cellular user agreement with these type of devices. Very few people bother to read the fine print on their cellular user contracts. But most cellular companies have lengthy statements buried within the contract that the user signs, which clearly state that sharing devices and/or operating server or server like devices will violate the contract and may result loss of service, fines, legal action, etc... And I have heard of cases where a cellular carrier has gone after a customer for back payment, aka per Kilobyte charges, for violating their user agreement.
So if you are going to use one of these devices, you had better read your cellular contract carefully and confirm with your cell carrier that its use is OK to use such a device with your service plan. It would really suck to get hit with a 5 cent per kilobyte back charge, or some other fine, after moving few gigabytes of data - all the while thinking you were on an unlimited data plan. It always pays to do your homework and get the right data plan from your cell carrier, but remember you are probably not going to get the unlimited consumer data plan for $59 per month - you may wind up paying significantly more $$$ per month to stay legal with your carrier.Updated
I paid a visit to the Cingular store and picked up the latest data service contract. It appears that the contracts are getting more restrictive as time passes. Here is what the current contract says:
"Data Service sessions may only be conducted for the following purposes: (i) Internet browsing; (ii) e-mail; and (iii) corporate intranet access (including access to corporate e-mail, customer relationship management, sales force automation, and field service automation applications). Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using services: (i) with server devices or host computer applications, including, without limitation, Web camera posts or broadcasts, continuous jpeg file transfers, automatic data feeds, telemetry applications, automated functions, or any other machine-to-machine applications, (ii) as substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections or (iii) for Voice over IP. Furthermore unlimited plans cannot be use for (i) uploading, downloading or streaming movies,music or games or (ii) in conjunction with WWAN or other applications or devices which aggregate usage from multiple sources prior to transmission."
It would appear that the last part is clearly referring to cell routers like the Junxion Box or Kyocera KR1, and quite possibly even Windows built-in Internet sharing service.
I do not have the latest Verizon contract yet, but the older Verizon contracts appear very much like the same law firm wrote them also.Updated
I paid a visit to the Cingular store and picked up the latest data service contract. It appears that the contracts are getting more restrictive as time passes. Here is what the current contract says:
"Data Service sessions may only be conducted for the following purposes: (i) Internet browsing; (ii) e-mail; and (iii) corporate intranet access (including access to corporate e-mail, customer relationship management, sales force automation, and field service automation applications). Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using services: (i) with server devices or host computer applications, including, without limitation, Web camera posts or broadcasts, continuous jpeg file transfers, automatic data feeds, telemetry applications, automated functions, or any other machine-to-machine applications, (ii) as substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections or (iii) for Voice over IP. Furthermore unlimited plans cannot be use for (i) uploading, downloading or streaming movies,music or games or (ii) in conjunction with WWAN or other applications or devices which aggregate usage from multiple sources prior to transmission."
It would appear that the last part is clearly referring to cell routers like the Junxion Box or Kyocera KR1, and quite possibly even Windows built-in Internet sharing service.
I do not have the latest Verizon contract yet, but the older Verizon contracts appear very much like the same law firm wrote them also.
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Please view these pages:
www.junxion.com/sprintcertification
www.junxion.com/cingularcertification
- Over 700 enterprise & government Sprint/Cingular customers are using Junxion for non-mobile hotspot applications like: Primary fixed connectivity (landline replacement, telemetry, monitoring/control, remote cameras, kioks, ATM's, etc.), data service fail-over (back-up), primary vehicle connectivity as well as portable networks (disaster response kits, mobile work teams, passenger connectivity on busses/shuttles, etc.)
- Cingular has over 90 OEM products associated with "Wireless WAN" alone. At upcoming CTIA Junxion is one of three OEM solutions invited to exhibit at stations set up in Cingular's booth.
- The $599 JB-110e (no Wi-Fi LAN) is our leading model in terms of sales. Most of our large fleet deployments are applications requiring Ethernet connectivity only. Coupled with our basically "free" Field Commander hosted remote management service (see: www.junxion.com/fieldcommander), and comercial-grade features, Junxion offers the most cost-effective solution among our direct competition (cellular routers and embeddded modems offered by top 3 US wirelesss carriers).
John Daly
VP Business Development & Marketing
Junxion, Inc. -
www.junxion.com/sprintcertification
www.junxion.com/cingularcertification
- Over 700 enterprise & government Sprint/Cingular customers are using Junxion for non-mobile hotspot applications like: Primary fixed connectivity (landline replacement, telemetry, monitoring/control, remote cameras, kioks, ATM's, etc.), data service fail-over (back-up), primary vehicle connectivity, and portable networks (disaster response, mobile work teams, etc.)
- Cingular has over 90 OEM products associated with "Wireless WAN" alone. At upcoming CTIA Junxion is one of three OEM solutions invited to exhibit at stations set up in Cingular's booth.
- The $599 JB-110e (non Wi-Fi) is our leading seller for applications requiring Ethernet connectivity only. Coupled with our basically "free" Field Commander hosted remote management service (www.junxion.com/fieldcommander), and comercial-grade features, Junxion offers the most cost-effective solution among our direct competition (cellular routers and embeddded modems offered by top 3 US wirelesss carriers)
John Daly
VP Business Development & Marketing
Junxion, Inc.
