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"Doesn't this violate cell user agreements?"
Pros: Looks good, but not available yet
Cons: Might violate cell user agreements / $$$$ extra
Summary: I thought this might be of interest to the readers of this forum. It was posted on the CNET Kyocera KR1 CES annoucement page
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Doesn't this violate user agreements?
Post by: ishimatsu on 01/05/06 Next message
I thought this type of application (using an EV-DO card in a wireless router) was expressly prohibited in the user agreements? I believe it is for Verizon. Any word from the DV-DO carriers about this type of device?
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Yes, You Are Correct About Violating Agreements!
Post by: Tom1257 on 01/07/06 Previous message |
You bring up a very good and valid point about violating your cellular user agreement with these type of devices. Very few people bother to read the fine print on their cellular user contracts. But most cellular companies have lengthy statements buried within the contract that the user signs, which clearly state that sharing devices and/or operating server or server like devices will violate the contract and may result loss of service, fines, legal action, etc... And I have heard of cases where a cellular carrier has gone after a customer for back payment, aka per Kilobyte charges, for violating their user agreement.
So if you are going to use one of these devices, you had better read your cellular contract carefully and confirm with your cell carrier that its use is OK to use such a device with your service plan. It would really suck to get hit with a 5 cent per kilobyte back charge, or some other fine, after moving few gigabytes of data - all the while thinking you were on an unlimited data plan. It always pays to do your homework and get the right data plan from your cell carrier, but remember you are probably not going to get the unlimited consumer data plan for $59 per month - you may wind up paying significantly more $$$ per month to stay legal with your carrier.Updated
I paid a visit to the Cingular store and picked up the latest data service contract. It appears that the contracts are getting more restrictive as time passes. Here is what the current contract says:
"Data Service sessions may only be conducted for the following purposes: (i) Internet browsing; (ii) e-mail; and (iii) corporate intranet access (including access to corporate e-mail, customer relationship management, sales force automation, and field service automation applications). Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using services: (i) with server devices or host computer applications, including, without limitation, Web camera posts or broadcasts, continuous jpeg file transfers, automatic data feeds, telemetry applications, automated functions, or any other machine-to-machine applications, (ii) as substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections or (iii) for Voice over IP. Furthermore unlimited plans cannot be use for (i) uploading, downloading or streaming movies,music or games or (ii) in conjunction with WWAN or other applications or devices which aggregate usage from multiple sources prior to transmission."
It would appear that the last part is clearly referring to cell routers like the Junxion Box or Kyocera KR1, and quite possibly even Windows built-in Internet sharing service.
I do not have the latest Verizon contract yet, but the older Verizon contracts appear very much like the same law firm wrote them also.Updated
I paid a visit to the Cingular store and picked up the latest data service contract. It appears that the contracts are getting more restrictive as time passes. Here is what the current contract says:
"Data Service sessions may only be conducted for the following purposes: (i) Internet browsing; (ii) e-mail; and (iii) corporate intranet access (including access to corporate e-mail, customer relationship management, sales force automation, and field service automation applications). Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using services: (i) with server devices or host computer applications, including, without limitation, Web camera posts or broadcasts, continuous jpeg file transfers, automatic data feeds, telemetry applications, automated functions, or any other machine-to-machine applications, (ii) as substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections or (iii) for Voice over IP. Furthermore unlimited plans cannot be use for (i) uploading, downloading or streaming movies,music or games or (ii) in conjunction with WWAN or other applications or devices which aggregate usage from multiple sources prior to transmission."
It would appear that the last part is clearly referring to cell routers like the Junxion Box or Kyocera KR1, and quite possibly even Windows built-in Internet sharing service.
I do not have the latest Verizon contract yet, but the older Verizon contracts appear very much like the same law firm wrote them also.
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Verizon is probably the strictest, as they even have a 5GB limit per month...if you go over you will get cut off. Sprint even sells routers, so they obviously don't care if you use one. To see a great comparison of the carriers and how they stack up in the Mobile Broadband arena, go here: http://moremobileinternet.com/sprint-vs-verizon
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Sprint actually recommends the competitor's (Linksys) router to use their card with, here's the link:
http://powervision.sprint.com/mobilebroadband/devices/linksysrouter.html -
unless you specifically tell them. also how would any of these companies know what you're downloading. data is data. once you plug your evdo card into the router and activate it, can they tell?
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Using such a device like the KR1 or even simply using a cell/evdo phone in lieu of dedicated lines (Going Solo)violates the agreement - technically I guess, like all laws, are meant for those that go too far - neo phreaks. Renee
