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"Is $350 worth it? Surprisingly, yes. And here's why..." on by rorytmeadows
Pros: - TouchFlo 3D and Wmo move in and out seamlessly;if you want one or the other, both easy to get
- Very impressive TouchFlo 3D improvements, including Facebook integration
- Great display
- The BEST mobile keyboard ON THE MARKET TODAYCons: - Lack of all possible automatic rotation (from landscape to portrait and back based on phone position)
- Where is my Tab key?
- Included leather case is terrible without a clip or secure buttonSummary: I was thinking that I may have needed a few shots of vodka before going into the T-Mobile store, having tracking this phone online prior to launch for months and practically messing up my keyboard with drool. The night before launch, price speculation was firing back and forth, with $350 as the most common reported (and ultimately the most accurate) cost of the new Touch Pro2. But when viewing the floor model, and encountering two salesmen that did not know anything about the phone, didn't seem like they would ever need to, and reported that they hadn't sold any up to that point that day at 5.00pm in a populated Rochester, NY suburb. I even overheard the salesmen joking about how long I was looking at the phone but they knew I wasn't going to buy it because "that's what always happens". Turns out, I was so impressed, I walked out of there in a half hour with my new gem. Yes, I had to upgrade to their new $25/month 3G compatible data plan, but having the data plan before and awaiting the 3G arrival, the salesman informed me the 3G network had rolled out in the area already a week ago (and I still thought I had a few months).
Now into late November, I still absolutely love this phone. I watched an entire movie on it today, laying in bed. I can pull music and video right from my desktop through LAN access, not to mention control my laptop and desktop with VNC. It is still in PERFECT condition. I almost sometimes prefer to type on this rather than on my computer because the keyboard is so nice. The communities at PPCGeeks and XDA have been wonderful in providing any support and directing people to a wonderful selection of applications (that just don't happen to be all in the same place, which can be misleading to people concerned about WinMo v. Apple when it comes to apps). Customizing it periodically, including changing the regular black and white slider icons to color, has been such a treat. E-mail arrives on my phone at least 2 minutes before it shows up in my Outlook on my work PC. And the phone COMES with tethering software (no additional price with T-Mobile). It has really been a great ride.
You can flow in and out of the upgraded TouchFlo 3D and Windows Mobile 6.1 seamlessly. I find Wmo useful at times and have not had any problems getting to where I want to in either operating shell. I found several mistakes in reviews prior to my experience with the phone, all of which I have corrected or found solutions to myself just by using the phone and knowing what the hell I was doing. The GPS is responsive. All of the software I wanted was uploaded and installed without difficulty (including RealVNC mobile, SiriusMP5, MyTinyTV, etc.). IM+ was a little slow and the VNC doesn't allow for free finger swipe like the rest of the OS software, but I was happy with replacing all of my old and commonly used Wmo software. I know there's 50000 more apps to look through, but I'll have to take a day or two off from work to really look (considering the afternoon it takes iPhone users to browse through their apps for Fart Simulators and applications reaffirming that they are hippies). Microsoft Exchange worked first try and Mobile Office and Google Maps was already loaded. I did find out that the Google Maps had to be updated, as well as the NET compact framework (in order to use Remote Tracker - the lost phone finder for Wmo). With a Wmo phone, the user can MASTER their property, unlike other Android and Apple phones, and the Touch Pro2 is no exception. Plus, you don't have to HACK the phone with illegal software to go beyond the built-in settings; Wmo developers have got you covered with freeware. I've heard numerous reviews of a camera that was not on par with other new phones, but if you're coming from 1.2MP, you'll have no problems. Considering I had a digital camera with 3.2MP 2 years ago that worked great, I'm not worried at all. Plus, you have to remember, the US phones with cameras are years behind those in Japan anyway. My T-Mobile account info is a couple swipes away; the local weather is a swipe away; the 5-day forecast is built into the calendar; the speakerphone turns on with a flip of the unit; the stereo speakers work better than I've heard on any mobile phone; the Facebook integration makes your contact list thrive and together with your PC internet lives; Wifi works fast, Bluetooth connectivity the same. I'm not hugely into using my phone as an mp3 player, but some have a problem with the lack of headphone jack. The box comes with a USB-headphone adapter, but the adapter also has room for TV out and an additional USB port and such an adapter is nice to see included with a mobile phone. I haven't investigated too much yet, but the TV-out capability sounds very interesting. In addition, the speakerphone noise-canceling is supposed to be one of the best on the market today.
Yes, many phones out now are priced at $200 a pop with the 2-year contract. I don't often switch between providers and am not really worried about the contract status (especially since the providers nowadays are offering rewards for sticking around for years). But for $200 with any contract, I guarantee you're not getting such a quality unit. This is, by far, the most advanced and PACKED smartphone/pocket-PC out there. And definitely the best Wmo phone on the market. They say the weight is noticeable, but a true HTC/Pocket-PC user is not going to care nor know the difference: they are all heavier than cheaper, less capable phones. This is worth your investment. But if you're still on the fence, go into the T-Mobile store and mess around. And don't be just a casual demoer. Try it out for real. Go in there and mess around with stuff. Mess with the settings and download whatever you want. The feeling I got from the salesmen may not even know or care what you're doing with it, because they're stuck on selling MyTouch3Gs or Sidekicks, built for people that need directions to open their car doors on a daily basis.
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"BEST DISPLAY, BEST KEYBOARD EVER. WELL THOUGHT OF." on by windooor7
Pros: They gave apple that, POINT 1 larger display. major issues were fully adressed, display, and input. the most important parts of any computer instance.
Cons: a few standards were omitted for no reason. 3.5 jack, not a big deal. its a "business phone". the weight is ok for now. everything , is still struggling trying to lose weight.. storage, its okey.
Summary: This is their second gen. So, i still feel that, it should be taken that way. not compared to the third gen iphone. i belive, they will get there with the third gen phone. all they will need to do, is drop the weight and add 3.5 jack .
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"Worst phone I have ever owned" on by xtree78
Pros: qwerty keyboard was great. Nothing else I liked about this phone
Cons: So much wrong. GPS did not triangulate so it was useless. Never could figure out how to upload a photo to facebook. More times than not the internet didn't work. Horrible design features for texting. Very hard to see an attachment.
Summary: There is in my opinion and I am having HTC investigate this that there is a design flaw in the case around the screen. I owned 2 of these phones in 3 months and thank God Tmobile is finally after hours of begging they are getting out of this phone. The sad part is this phone could have been great if there had been more thought into it. The phone is way too complicated. It is my first attempt at a windows mobile phone and after this phone I will never purchase another. The GPS never worked for me it would always put me at the actual cell tower and not where I was at. There is a what I think a design flaw that somebody needs to look into. After a few weeks I dropped my phone dinked a corner on it. Well about 2 weeks later 2 cracks showed up on the top and bottom of the screen portion of the case which according to Tmobile voids the warranty. So I called insurance and paid my $130 copay and got another one. 3 weeks later there are cracks again IN THE SAME PLACEs!!! Did some looking around and started thinkking about it and these cracks are at weak points in the case design and these cracks are what I beleive caused by stress of the screen being pushed on while I was using the qwerty. I wonder how many other people are like me that thought I cause this by dropping and paid mopney for another phone when it could potentially be a design flaw and not physical damage? If this is the case there is lots of money that needs to be recovered as I know for sure I want my money back. I would advise anyone to stay far away from this phone which Tmobile no longer carries which I am sure there is a reason for that.
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"Not worth it" on by Blizz2006
Pros: Best keyboard I have ever used, Great battery life, nice web browser when it is not frozen
Cons: Constant freezes, Poor reception, Bad speakerphone, No flash
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"Pain in the neck, sluggish doorstop of a phone" on by lyrkerabove
Pros: Sleek design. Mp3s can be used as ringtones.
Cons: Sluggish software. Constant freezing up of screen. Hiccuping click on calls. Random software foul-ups and misdirects. Slow internet. Shoddy performance. Overpriced. Drops calls.
Summary: This is the worst phone I've owned, hands down, and I've owned a lot of cellphones in my time. In the 4 months I've had it I've had to get a new one sent to me (to the tune of $130 and that's with a warranty) because the software kept messing up. I'd hoped the problems were just with that one device but this new one isn't any better. In addition to experiencing sluggish internet and slow-to-load programs, the HTC Touch Pro2 freezes up constantly. It also 'hiccups' on some calls, inserting a clicking noise that makes it hard to hear what's being said. Any outside noise will interfere with the call quality as well, cutting off the sound you hear. Even a cough while on a call will result in this brief dead air, on a phone that's never been dropped or mishandled.
Three people in my family own this same device (we got them at the same time) and everyone's had the same problems. Some other strange behavior we've all noticed is how sometimes the device opens random programs for no reason, sometimes when you're in the middle of a call. Just yesterday I went to answer my phone and when I pushed the green 'answer' button (not the screen, the actual button) it disconnected the incoming call and threw me over into a Global Clock screen I'd never seen before and didn't even know I had.
Today took the cake though. I hung up my phone (again, using the button) and the whole phone went black. It wouldn't respond to the Power button or the other external buttons. Touching the screen did nothing. I set it down and waited -- sometimes waiting would solve the freezing screen issue. It blipped a couple of times, the sound it makes when you're touching a contact in the contact screen, but nothing showed on the screen. I tried pushing and holding the hang-up button, which got it to vibrate once and then nothing else. I finally used my stylus and pressed the little red Reset button. That brought it back online but it wanted me to set my timezone. I did so, fearing that all of my info was lost. When the screen came up though it had all of my stuff still. So why did it forget my timezone?
Another issue that's getting more troublesome is how it seems to be sending calls off into dead space. I tried calling my spouse a couple of weeks ago and even though he was right upstairs his phone didn't ring. I heard the ringing sound and finally was kicked over to his voicemail but when I went upstairs to find out why he hadn't answered, he said his phone hadn't rung. Checking his phone - which was in his hand - the screen didn't even say he'd missed a call. The same thing happened in reverse just 2 days ago: He tried calling me twice and it not only didn't ring on my phone, my phone didn't show any calls missed. I'm now wondering how many calls I've missed lately.
About the only good thing I can say about this phone is that it lets you use your own mp3s as ringtones, which means you can set super-customized rings for anyone on your call list. Learning how to do it is a major pain but once you've got it down, you can set just about any sound as a ringtone - from voice recordings to your favorite song. But that's a small consolation for the otherwise low quality of this device. If you're considering purchasing one of these phones, do yourself a big favor and look at another phone. ANY other phone. This one will only disappoint and give you headaches of the annoyed kind.
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