"very high end phone with a few blatant issues though."3.5 starson by highlandot
Pros: Lots of features- wifi, great camera, great keyboard, great touchscreen, slick interface, great battery life.
Cons: No slot for micro SD card so you're dependent on you computer and Zune software to move things off and onto phone. Some aspects of the OS are very intuitive, some are not. Taking photos is a little awkward.
Summary: I looked at the LG Cosmos Touch and the LG Octane as well as the Kin Twom before deciding on the Kin. The Cosmos touch screen was just not that good. I tried using the calendar function on the one at the store, and kept hitting the wrong date. The Octane was better, but when I saw that for $50 less (at the Verizon store, Best Buy had the Octane cheaper), I could get a phone with wifi connectivity, an 8 megapixel camera with flash, and a good touch screen, I took a chance and went with the Kin.
So far everything is as advertised with the Kin Twom. It's a very high quality phone, the sound quality is good, reception is good, keyboard is great, touchscreen is great, camera is quite good (though not quite up to the level I'd expect from an 8 mp), the Zune music player is great, and the OS isn't bad.
The biggest issue one has to be aware of though is one of connectivity to the computer. It's not a guarantee on the first try with a Windows machine, and you can pretty much forget about it with a Mac or Linux system. In theory you should be able to download the free Zune software, set it up, and when you connect your Kin to the PC, it syncs perfectly. In practice though that's not the case. I had to download Zune 4.7, install it on my computer, uninstall, 4.7, install version 4.0, update 4.0, uninstall 4.0, and finally reinstall 4.7 before I could get my computer to see my phone. The Kin forum site is full of people that had problems with Zune recognizing their phone, so my issues aren't isolated.
There are some workarounds for connectivity problems. Since the phone connects to wifi quite well, you can email pics to and from the phone, but I'm pretty sure you need that PC connectivity to get songs on your Kin.
Overall I'm very pleased with the Kin (now that my computer can see it). It's easily the most fully loaded feature phone available from Verizon, at a price that compares well with any of the others that don't require a data plan. You have to be aware of the connectivity issues, and definitely read the manual (once you download it), but with a couple of days of practice, it's a very solid, full-featured phone.