Version: 2008
  • On CHOW: Sexy vampire party

CNET Archive BETA

Find more recent Software products


advertisement

MoodLogic 2.0 (discontinued)

MoodLogic 2.0

Entered CNET Catalog: 07/25/2002

SKU: CNETMOODLOGIC2

Manufacturer: MoodLogic, Inc.

CNET editors' review

  • Editors' Choice: No
  • Reviewed on: 07/25/2002


MoodLogic 2.0 bills itself as a music companion--an appropriately vague phrase since this service defies easy definition. (Download MoodLogic here.) It's an online music database, organizer, and playlist generator that catalogs music files; corrects ID3 tags, song titles, and album and artist names; organizes music; and lets you profile your own songs and contribute to the MoodLogic database. It's also a virtual DJ: you tell the program what music genre or tempo you're in the mood to hear, and MoodLogic serves up the tunes to match--from your own collection, of course. We love its organization and title-correction features, but we found that MoodLogic's database lacks depth. The service has some rough edges, and it's a bit pricey at $39.95, though it's currently on sale for $29.95. Wait for future releases, though, and give the free version a try--if only because there's nothing else like it.

MoodLogic 2.0 bills itself as a music companion--an appropriately vague phrase since this service defies easy definition. (Download MoodLogic
here.) It's an online music database, organizer, and playlist generator that catalogs music files; corrects ID3 tags, song titles, and album and artist names; organizes music; and lets you profile your own songs and contribute to the MoodLogic database. It's also a virtual DJ: you tell the program what music genre or tempo you're in the mood to hear, and MoodLogic serves up the tunes to match--from your own collection, of course. We love its organization and title-correction features, but we found that MoodLogic's database lacks depth. The service has some rough edges, and it's a bit pricey at $39.95, though it's currently on sale for $29.95. Wait for future releases, though, and give the free version a try--if only because there's nothing else like it.

Smooth interface; slow start-up
Once you download and install MoodLogic's 2.7MB file--for PCs only, sorry, Mac users--the program automatically opens a View box on the left side of the interface that links to the Activation Center, My Active Music, Search, Preferences, and Help. The center window displays song lists. As soon as you launch MoodLogic the first time, it searches for all the music files on your computer--MP3, WAV, Real, and WMA. Click Activate Music, and it checks your tunes against its network in order to activate them. One caveat: You need a broadband connection for this service. Over CNET's internal LAN, MoodLogic spent about 90 minutes categorizing 500 songs. When we activated about 8,000 songs over DSL, MoodLogic ran in the background for more than 24 hours.

Active lifestyle
So, what does it mean to "activate" your music? At your bidding, MoodLogic checks your song's waveforms against those in its database--a more accurate scan than reading metadata ,
ID3 tags, or filenames--which have been hand-ranked according to about 40 or 50 data points. Data points are such information as genre and subgenre, mood, instruments, energy level, emotion (such as sad, aggressive, uplifting, exciting), and type of lyrics (such as Love/Romance, Brooding/Cynicism, Sentimental, or Energy/Rebellion). The paid version activates 10,000 songs, but the free version limits you to just 25 activations, or so-called credits. However, with either version, you can profile songs yourself and earn more song credits.

If your song is fully profiled in the MoodLogic database, it appears in the My Active Music window with a green dot; partially profiled songs (with only album, artist, and song name) show up in the Activation Center window with a yellow dot, and unavailable songs display a red dot. With your collection of active music, you can use MoodLogic to compile playlists on the fly that match your frame of mind simply by specifying a genre, a tempo, or a mood or by searching for songs in your collection that sound alike.

Database détente
Unfortunately, MoodLogic classifies songs only after many users have profiled them with the same criteria. This means that the profiling is accurate, but also that the network moves slowly. In our two months of testing, MoodLogic issued only one database update. Worse, we found the database incomplete and inconsistent. MoodLogic activated entire albums of relatively obscure artists but lacked any data on more mainstream selections, such as Moby. If you want an entirely active collection, you'll have to profile songs yourself or wait for more users to join the network and do more profiling.

Spotty player support
MoodLogic supports only a few portable MP3 players: the Rio series players, the , and the (click
here for the list). Unfortunately, we couldn't get MoodLogic to recognize our Nike PSA, which was running under Windows XP. E-mail tech support took more than a week to respond and did not solve the problem. MoodLogic also hosts forums, which often refer users back to the weak e-mail, and a not-very-technical FAQ.

A work in progress
For sheer innovation and promise, MoodLogic won us over, but it's not quite up to speed. Much of the time, some features, such as an Instant Mix button, either worked poorly or didn't function at all. We also wish that MoodLogic would store our manual song activations on a server or even a file on our hard drive. When we reinstalled our OS and MoodLogic, the 100 or so songs that we'd profiled by hand were totally lost.

Still, our complaints are minor, and we love the MoodLogic concept. As of this writing, we can't recommend that you shell out the $29.95, but try the free version and sit tight--this is a service that can only improve.

User opinions

Select a User Opinion to view: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23

User Rating: 1/10

It does not work and totally lack of support

Pros: Organizes your mp3 files

Cons: Terrible support: they do not answer

Review: I bought since it claimed to support my mp3 player.
It seems not to be true.
I wrote them three times and I never got any answer.

I cannot suggest anyone to buy it, it is a waste of money!

User Rating: 1/10

They lie about refunds

Pros: Does what it says

Cons: No response from them over advertised refund

Review: I've emailed them several times in accordance with their refund policy and they've ignored all my correspondence. I wouldn't touch this company or their software. Wish i checked with Cnet reviews first.

User Rating: 9/10

Would be a 10 if it supported Mac

Pros: For those with a lot of music, this is a great way to create unique playlists. Despite some comments, I find it better if you rate the music yourself. Version 2.7 is far better than 2.0.

Cons: I just bought a Mac and found out that I can't use MoodLogic on the Mac.

Review:

User Rating: 6/10

one-time use for 10,000 songs

Pros: It does a fairly decent job catogorizing. A good job with playlists.

Cons: Apparently the 10,000 song limit is one-time. If you re-do or build a new PC you have used all your credits and the info is gone.

Review:

User Rating: 8/10

2.7 version is outstanding

Pros: Update fixes most of the issues addressed by negative reviews here (since 2.0). Moodlogic is an outstanding product that creates playlists according to your mood instead of the usual era or music type.

Cons: Not all songs rated

Review:

User Rating: 3/10

Nice idea...Needs a lot of work

Pros: makes nice playlists according to your preferences..which can pleasantly surprise you

Cons: If you move your audio files it doubles up using your credits and they will not work with you to fix it. Database is not at all what they present it to be. I'm mostly top 40 and out of 8k songs they only identified about 2.5k.

Review:

User Rating: 8/10

Rediscover Your Music

Pros: Makes amazing playlists in seconds, something I can't do well.. If i'm having friends over it takes 2 seconds to make the perfect mix for what we want to listen to

Cons: I have an iRiver H120, and I can't get it to sync up with the software, all i get are a lot of error messages - and tech support has been nonresponsive to my emails. I just hope I or they can get this problem fixed, since that is the biggest reason I pur

Review:

User Rating: 3/10

Irrecoverable disaster

Pros: Neat concept, decent GUI, fun while it works

Cons: I ran this program with decent success until I moved my music to a new hard-drive. Then all my "credits" were suddenly locked up and no amount support calls or emails would help. They simply told me to buy more credits even though I have 10,000 that are c

Review:

User Rating: 7/10

What!? 6 day trial!?

Pros: GREAT way to organize songs and it really does help you choose songs according to your mood.

Cons: -6 day trial -Not free afterwards

Review:

User Rating: 3/10

Slow; tiny window; limited

Pros: Fair job at copying the brushed-metal look of much of Mac OS X.

Cons: No sir, I don't like it. Slow. Tiny, non-resizable main window (I have 1600x1200). Recognizes only a tiny fraction of my thousands of songs. Can't give it a decent trial -- gotta pay to try anything reasonable. (I've already fixed most tags using the

Review:

User Rating: 5/10

Ingenius way to have others do your work

Pros: Looks clean

Cons: Database is oblivious to anything that deviates from top 40. The users have to build the database while being led by the carrot/credit idea, and have to pay $29 on top of it. Whoever invented this is a marketing genius, but knows or cares nothing for musi

Review:

User Rating: 5/10

Great Promising Tool

Pros: It is great to finally have something to go through and organize my MP3s. i have close to 5000 and i just cant keep track of them all, with this i have rediscovered many of my MP3s.

Cons: It takes a long time to get everything set up.

Review:

User Rating: 2/10

Wrong tags are worse than incomplete ones!

Pros: Cheap

Cons: Wrong! It mis-tagged hundreds of my mp3's -- now they're more of a mess than before!

Review:

User Rating: 7/10

Very innovative product, but still needs some work

Pros: I tried this product and I genuinely like it. For the most part, it does organize songs well. In the future, once they have a better database, this product will become very useful.

Cons:

Review:

User Rating: 9/10

Essential mp3 organizer

Pros:

Cons:

Review: You NEED this application if you have 250+ mp3s on your HD or iPod. Give it a try, it will change your music experience!

User Rating: 4/10

Tried the trial, didn't like it enough

Pros:

Cons:

Review: My fiance and I have very diverse tastes in music, and I'm already pretty anal about tagging all the songs for genre, mood, and tempo. So for me, MoodLogic wasn't that much of a benefit to pay for the full version. Besides, the program put Bauhaus and Alice In Chains in the same genre (alternative). The resulting "mix" would be kind of scary to listen to! Thanks, but no thanks-- I'd rather tag songs with my own genre system.

User Rating: 7/10

Version 2.5 much improved

Pros:

Cons:

Review: Version 2.5 is much improved. I was originally not satisfied with the recognition rate of my music. It was very accurate, but many songs were not recognized. I bought MusicMatch and it recognized many more but with far worse accuracy. The technology is very cool. It now makes instant mixes that "sound like" a song you select. I think this is a great feature. I think this is a very under-rated program that is getting much better.

User Rating: 8/10

If you invest the time - incredibly useful

Pros:

Cons:

Review: I've used the software for a little over a year now and am generally happy with it. It does fall short in classifying certain genres (classical, tv & movie soundtracks, comedy) but makes up in the range of information about popular music 1960-present. Would not recommend buying unless your music collection mirrors that of MTV/VH1 - the eclectic stuff is just beginning to be fleshed out in the database. But the free version will more than give you an idea of the programs ability and you can always profile a few songs for more credits. For example, I have never purchased the program, and yet have over 2500 credits to my account from profiling songs that had yet to be entered in the database.

User Rating: 5/10

Good Idea, Not Yet Ready

Pros:

Cons:

Review: I agree with the trend of prior comments.. The application is a GREAT idea, but it's not ready for prime time. I tried the free demo, and of 20 songs, 8 were mis-identified. And, they were not so obscure, mainly they were current, top-40 songs. I did not try to contact customer support, so I cannot comment on that. I think they should hire people to create their database instead of charging us $30 to become typists! If it were totally free, I would not mind doing some typing..

User Rating: 5/10

Great program.. TERRIBLE support

Pros:

Cons:

Review: I love the idea of this program and at first I loved the program. But the people at moodlogic are not at all committed to supporting the product. They promise to release more song data but they haven't done it in over 4 months so if you have any new music it will not be profiled for you. So do not waste your money until they start showing a little sense of product support!

User Rating: 4/10

Someday this will be an invaluable utility (I hope)

Pros:

Cons:

Review: Recognized MAYBE 1/2 of my mp3s. Admittedly I have a lot of mp3s (and many of them obscure), but when 10% of my mainstream songs were mislabled by Mood Logic I realized this wasn't the app for me. There are too many evil users who purposely mislabel mp3 files for fun. Top notch idea, relatively poor implementation. Future version with company entered mp3 info?

User Rating: 3/10

It could be good.

Pros:

Cons:

Review: I really enjoy the idea behind the application but they just don't have enough MP3 information in thier database to make the idea work well. They need to stop requiring users to profile the MP3 info and hire a staff to do it. Especially if your getting chanrged $29 dollars!

User Rating: 6/10

Fantastic concept, limited realisation

Pros:

Cons:

Review: Moodlogic is a brilliant idea - to classify all your music on numerous features: genre, year, instrumentation, mood and others. Criticism: so far it falls far far short of this description in reality. Some of the descriptive data (all provided by users) seems not even to be used - for instance, you can specify up to 3 dominant instruments, but there is no facility on the interface for selecting tracks by dominant instrument. On the other hand, one feature, namely genre, is overused, so that the mixes generated are apparently based predominantly on similarity of genre (even ahead of tempo), leading to rather boringly homogeneous mixes. The potential exists to give the user much greater freedom regarding which parameters dominate. If and when this is implemented Moodlogic will live up to its enormous promise; for the moment, though, something of a letdown. A final separate point: some of the choices Moodlogic contributors must make are highly subjective (e.g. "uplifting" or "brooding", and it remains to be seen whether this will prove limiting in terms of successful exploitation of users' judgments on such criteria.

Tips on MoodLogic 2.0

Keywords

mp3 file manager   |  

About CNET Archive BETA

Welcome to the CNET Archive, a library of product reviews, user opinions, videos, specifications, and manufacturer descriptions for products no longer offered by the manufacturer or most retailers. Here you will find information on replacement parts and replacement ink cartridges. Read what others had to say about that used laptop you are considering buying. Take a trip down memory lane as you browse and reminisce about your favorite old video game or that first digital camera.

MoodLogic 2.0 specifications

advertisement
advertisement