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Fossil Wrist PDA FX2008 (02/01/2005)

Fossil Wrist PDA FX2008

Entered CNET Catalog: 02/01/2005

SKU: FX20082208

Manufacturer: Fossil, Inc.

Manufacturer description

Check more than just the time with this Wrist PDA watch, a revolutionary personal organizer cleverly disguised as a stylish wristwatch with a black leather strap. This oversized watch, powered by the Palm OS platform, can store hundreds of contacts, check your calendar, and make a To-Do list from its surprisingly big 8MB of memory. Other features include convenient drop-down menus, alarm reminder window for recurring appointments, a memo pad, and a selection of different time and date displays to give your Wrist PDA its own personalized "dial" when not in PDA mode. A stylus is integrated into the buckle.

Product summary

The goodThe good: Mac compatible; stable Palm OS 4.1; unlike Microsoft SPOT watches, it doesn't require a monthly or yearly service fee.

The badThe bad: Display elements are tiny and difficult to manipulate; using the stylus is a joke; not water resistant.

The bottom lineThe bottom line: From the tiny display to the difficult input methods, the Fossil Wrist PDA isn't worth the price. Windows users interested in a smart watch will find their needs better met with one of Microsoft's SPOT watches.

Average user rating: from 13 users
3.0 stars

Editors' review

  • Editors' Choice: No
  • Reviewed on: 03/03/2005
Companies often design products that they announce, show off at trade shows, then subsequently kill. And usually they have good reason to bury the product. After parading it around, they get negative feedback and realize that, in spite of their best efforts, the product in question may simply not be ready for prime time. Such is the case with the original Fossil Wrist PDA, which was introduced over a year ago, then never saw the light of day. Now, the company is taking a second stab at it with the Fossil Wrist PDA FX2008, and unfortunately, the news isn't good. While the integrated Palm OS is plenty robust, and our excitement for smart watches is more than obvious, it seems that the two may form a marriage that isn't necessarily made in heaven. Add to that the Fossil Wrist PDA's price tag of $249 and it's neither the most useful nor the best-priced smart watch on the market. Abacus, a division of Fossil, also offers a Wrist PDA with a thinner silver casing but the same functionality at $199.

Physically, the Fossil Wrist PDA is huge. Of course, that's not necessarily a bad thing, seeing that chunky cuff-type watches are in--for the moment. On the left side of the watch is the Back button, which takes you one step out of the interface. Above that is the USB port, which has a plastic cover. On the top of the watch is the infrared port, and on the right side, you'll find the page-up and -down buttons that flank the three-directional rocker switch, all of which are easy to use. Criticisms aside, the Fossil Wrist PDA feels pretty good and solid on the arm, as it should at 3.8 ounces. Nevertheless, we were disappointed that the Fossil Wrist PDA is not water resistant, unlike the various SPOT watches that work with Microsoft's MSN Direct service. Furthermore, battery life is relatively short, at about three to four days. Thankfully, you can charge the Fossil Wrist PDA via the included USB cable.

The Fossil Wrist PDA runs Palm OS 4.1and is powered by a Motorola DragonBall Super VZ 66MHz processor. Add to that 8MB of built-in memory, and you have a smart watch that also packs some brawn--in theory. Furthermore, since the Fossil Wrist PDA is essentially just another Palm device, it will run most Palm OS applications. Of course, its monochrome 1-inch (diagonal) display is a scant 160x160 pixels, so you can imagine how good most third-party applications will look on it. Applications specifically designed to run on the Fossil Wrist PDA will work better. That said, however, at the time of this writing, there were only a handful of such applications available, including PIM software such as HoliDates and Wassup and games such as Karateka and Sub Patrol. As far as customizing the look of your screen, you can choose from 11 watch faces.

The Fossil Wrist PDA ships with several useful applications: an address book, a date book, a to-do list, a memo pad, and a calculator, among others. The Fossil Wrist PDA connects to your PC or Mac via the included USB cable and uses PalmOne's HotSync application to sync data between the device and your computer. Our test machine initially had some problems detecting the Fossil Wrist PDA, but eventually, we were able to connect to our Windows-based PC. Also, since the Wrist PDA has an infrared port, it supports beaming data and infrared HotSync operations. Once we were able to make the connection to our PC, synchronization was smooth.

Being able to access the date book and the address book on the go was fantastic, but inputting data to the Fossil Wrist PDA was, for lack of a better word, a joke. The Fossil Wrist PDA ships with a tiny foldable stylus that is tucked into the clasp of the watchband, and you can use it to input data to the device via its touch screen through handwriting recognition or the insultingly tiny virtual keyboard. When shown the virtual keyboard, one of our colleagues remarked that the device was like a computer built for a dollhouse.

The smart watch scene is young, particularly the PDA-type breed, and because of this, the whole genre has some growing up to do. That said, while there's a lot that we like about Microsoft's SPOT watches (for instance, their ability to update your watch with real-time data on the go), there isn't much that we like about the Fossil Wrist PDA. The display is so small and the text and onscreen elements are so difficult to read that using the device is more frustrating than helpful. We'd opt for a standalone Palm device before going with the Fossil Wrist PDA.

User opinions

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User Rating:
1.0 stars

out of 13 user reviews

Comes with just a 3 month warranty on a shoddy product

Pros: I like the service

Cons: The watch broke under normal use before I had it 9 months

Review: No wonder it has just a 3 month warranty because the product is not built to last. The scroll down switch broke and that prevents being able to use some of the features Microsoft has lost a customer and it's Fossil's fault.
User Rating:
2.5 stars

out of 13 user reviews

wrist watch HEAVYWEIGHT

Pros: cool OS, no one else has one

Cons: a bit dated feeling, way too heavy and thick, not color

Review: this is a cool watch, i got it for my birthday and have played with it for a while

it sux that it is not water resistant and is so heavy and cumbersome

it is fun to play games but some of my buttons are really hard and make it difficult to use

i think i will take it back and wait for the next generation one that isnt so archaic feeling
User Rating:
3.0 stars

out of 13 user reviews

price mis-reported

Pros: A PDA on your hand!

Cons: Hard data entry, Short battery life.

Review: Just want to mention that the price for this watch is "officially" 79$ in the fossil website, as of november 2005. Did they reduce the price by 170$ in a course of 8 months?! (The abacus watch is still 199$).
User Rating:
5.0 stars

out of 13 user reviews

This Palm OS PDA stays with you.

Pros: Harder to froget, loose, or break than most other PDA/phone.

Cons: Not preset to the loudest sounding alarm.

Review: Most PDAs are easier to forget, loose, or break than this unit appears to be. That is why I was willing to pay for a Fossil FX2008 Wrist PDA. Sure, I could buy a Palm OS PDA with more and newer features. What good would it do if I forget it at home or broke it in my pocket?

If you do not like the stylus in the watch band, you can buy a combination pen/stylus. That is what I did and it works for me. Then you still have the stylus in the band for emergency.

Not all the alarms are loud, so you need to find one of the louder alarms. It would have helped if they preset it to the loudest alarm. Also, turn off the IR to make the battery last longer. It is turned on by default.

Someone inventive could put the body in a hard case and turn it into a pocket watch/PDA. I know of no other Palm OS PDA that is as small in diameter.

I am never without my watch, so now I am never without a PDA.

I gave it a rating of 10 for what it is, not what people want it to be. Otherwise I should give all PDAs a 2 or 3 compared to desktop computers.
User Rating:
1.5 stars

out of 13 user reviews

Can't hear alarms and battery life is terrible...sent it back

Pros: Neat concept...ready for round 2 attempt

Cons: I freshly charged the battery and it lasted all of 6 hours. I wanted to use this as an alarm to alert me of scheduled items in my Outlook calendar. Beeps were too quiet to hear.

Review: Thumbs down. I'm optimistic about the concept, it's just that the execution this round failed to impress. Had to send it back.
User Rating:
3.5 stars

out of 13 user reviews

I think its not bad, but have some marks

Pros: The good thing in it, thats is convinent and it has a nice shape with many features

Cons: it has a small keys, and its not colorfull, small icons

Review: Well in my opinion, i think the watch is nice and cool, but the thing is that it has a small view.. which is bad and made its rank low....
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 13 user reviews

Love this gadget!

Pros: Quality product with much usefulness

Cons: Not water-proof but then neither is my PC

Review: These CNET editors are raising frivolous objections. This is a great product that gives me a lot for my money.
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 13 user reviews

Awesome product

Pros: Does everything my PC does

Cons: Used a bigger stylus sometimes

Review: Can't live without mine. I misplaced my PDA and it was real nightmare. But this product is always on my wrist. Holds thousands and thousnds of addresses and phone numbers. Much handier than my bulky expensive laptop. Looks cool, too.
User Rating:
3.5 stars

out of 13 user reviews

pretty good

Pros: A real Palm, on the wrist. How many watches let you write software for them? (Besides the OnHand one :)

Cons: Tiny display, tiny speaker, battery life

Review: The display (160x160) has the same number
of pixels as most older Palms, which might
not be clear from the main review :)

One fun aspect of the watch is that the
Wrist PDA specific developers are interacting with the users (frequently at the Yahoo! wristpda group,
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wristpda )

The Software Development Kit (SDK) is free
from Fossil.

I enter calendar/contact information via
the Palm Desktop on my PC, because data entry on the Wrist PDA is indeed a bit hard.

If this had come out before the Treo 300,
it would be a definite winner. How,
however, it's less interesting to the
mainstream user. People who like gadgets
will love it.

I'm currently running the "binary" watch
face (free if you have "Bob's Watch", check the Yahoo! wristpda group for info),
and there's a contest to design your
own face ... what other watch lets you
do that?
User Rating:
3.0 stars

out of 13 user reviews

Try the TIMEX DataLink USB $60-$99

Pros: Hi-Tech look

Cons: Too expensive

Review: Surprised you folks did not include the TIMEX DataLink USB in this roundup. Syncs to Outlook via USB and at $60 [Walmart and other discounters] is an incredible Best Buy! Many standard features including the ability to sync iCals PLUS the ability to add more with "Wrist Apps". No brainer!!!
User Rating:
3.5 stars

out of 13 user reviews

Nice PDA-Watch with room to improve

Pros: Palm OS 4.1.1 compatible, runs stable, Serial interface (USB, IR)

Cons: Display, small battery, speaker + alarm functions.

Review: First of all: I really like almost anything with a serial interface. Because whatever it may be - it might run Linux and TCP/IP if it can connect in some way to the outer world.

Turning the watch "on" feels like having a mini entry level Palm Organizer having around your wrist. It's solid and big. Still, it's somewhat elegant and looks more stylish than the 50.-$ cheaper Abacus version, by combining black leather with brushed steel.

If you live in a big city and might end up in a street fight, you can sacrifice the not so good display to have an edge in the fight. The display has background illumination, which is more than the cheapest Palm devices come with.

8 MB RAM total leaves you enough to install Palm OS 4.1 compatible software. There's much free stuff out there on the net - so you won't have problems to feed your PDA Watch with programs beyond with what it comes with.

Some apps don't seem to work though: I had difficulties to get any alarm clock or remote control software to get work right. Also, many "drawing" programs seem to cause a crash.

While you can do things like download your text messages from your cell phone to/from your PDA Watch, I would have really liked to see a watch (!) come with a speaker loud enough create a working "wake-up" sound volume.

Even, when you're awake, you may not hear the alarm of an appointment from your datebook, especially, because the alarm function is not piped thru, when the PDA Watch is in "watch mode" with the PDA turned off.

Finding a remote control software that didn't crash the watch or was readable was also not possible. So controlling your TV/DVD/VCR/CD won't happen at least for now. The TV would have to be close anyways, because the range of the IR isn't too big. It does let you beam information to other Palms easily, however.

It's true, some programs are much better readable on the tiny display than others. You have to try and see.

Data entry with the supplied pen is painful - get a PDA replacement pen! This is really important if you actually intend to enter data into you Watch beyond sync-ing it. In fact, get PDA pen with a built in LED (i.e. Belkin, ca 15.-$). In dark areas you can rather use the LED of the pen than the PDA Watch's own light. The PDA Watch allows for both - Gaffity 2 and the newer Jot technique for handwriting recognition. The keyboard is there too, if you need it - but it's small!

Getting your PDA Watch sync with Apple's iSync or the Palm Desktop v 4.0 is easy. Using the more recent Palm Desktop v4.2.1 caused problems, also + especially when iSync is what you really want. Keep it with Palm Desktop v 4.0 on the Mac side.

If you are on a multi day trip without a computer around, make sure you take the supplied charger along with the special USB cable.

Summary:

Sometimes it's not so much what the monkey has to say, but that the monkey can talk at all!

It is really possible to have the same contact infos, calender + datebook + to-do-items synchronized on your computer, PDA Watch and mobile phone, using i.e. iSync under Mac OS X Panther. But you will still need your phone's alarm function. Typing a SMS with T9 on your phone is still faster and also send out quicker than to write it on your PDA Watch and finally any Nintendo Game boy has more to offer in the games section - but yes - you can play anything from backgammon, black jack, chess, checkers to Monopoly. But please don't try to do spreadsheets from work with it :) ...

You can use it for electronic books or dictionaries, but need good vision.

On the wish list:

- louder speaker
- alarms working with PDA off
- TCP/IP
- email + ssh client
- larger battery
- better display (shades)
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 13 user reviews

Mine rocks!

Pros: everything! i have my pda on my wrist, after losing my first pda in a cab i'll never go back to old school pda's

Cons: it's a bit bulky i have to admit...

Review: Been using a PDA for years now, it's really convinient, but after losing it in a cab and having my contacts HARASSED for 2 weeks in a row!!! I'll never go through that again...this puts the pda right on my wrist, i never have to worry about losing my info!
User Rating:
3.5 stars

out of 13 user reviews

Gotta give them an A for effort

Pros: Palm platform is simplistic and works

Cons: A Stylus that folds into the clasp?

Review: I hope they sell a few. Its been a long time in coming.

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Fossil Wrist PDA FX2008 specifications

  • General
  • Product Type Handheld
  • Operating System Palm OS 4.1
  • Display
  • Type Monochrome
  • Display Resolution 160 x 160
  • Color Depth 4-bit (16 gray levels)
  • Memory
  • RAM 8.0 MB
  • Total User Available Memory 7.7 MB
  • Processor
  • Processor Motorola
  • Processor Clock Speed 66.0 MHz
  • Location
  • GPS Navigation None
  • Multimedia
  • Audio None
  • Software
  • Preloaded Software Memo Pad , Calculator , Address Book , Date Book , Time , To Do List
  • Input Device
  • Type Rocker Switch , Touch-screen , 4-way hat switch
  • Expansion and Connectivity
  • Expansion Slot(s) None
  • Interfaces 1.0 x USB - IrDA , 1.0 x Infrared
  • Battery
  • Technology / Form Factor Lithium ion
  • Run Time (Up To) 4.0 day(s)
  • Miscellaneous
  • Included Accessories Power adapter , Stylus
  • Power
  • Voltage Required AC 120/230 V
  • Manufacturer Warranty
  • Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 90 days
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