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Dish Network HDTV System (05/18/2004)

Dish Network HDTV System

Entered CNET Catalog: 05/18/2004

SKU: CNETDishNetorkHDTVSystem34InchTV

Manufacturer: Dish Network

Manufacturer description

DISH Network satellite TV, the industry leader in technology, is proud to introduce the first complete HDTV system that includes everything you need to Live Life in High Definition. The affordable way to step up to HDTV is with your choice of a 34" Direct View or 40" Rear Projection HD monitor. Perfect for high performance, all-digital video and audio, DISH Network HD monitors deliver superior picture performance with high contrast and brightness, no image flicker and the most vivid natural colors possible.

Product summary

The goodThe good: Great value for the money; independent memory per input; RF remote.

The badThe bad: Color decoder accentuates red; video processing lacks 2:3 pull-down.

The bottom lineThe bottom line: This HDTV/satellite receiver bundle gives you instant high def at an extremely attractive price.

Average user rating: from 14 users
2.5 stars

Editors' review

  • Editors' Choice: No
  • Reviewed on: 05/21/2004
Welcome to HDTV in a box. Dish Network, the satellite TV provider, has come up with a quick-and-dirty bundle for people who want HDTV now but don't own any equipment. The bundle Dish Network HDTV System includes the Dish 811 HD satellite receiver and your choice of a 42-inch projection TV or a 34-inch direct-view tube TV (this reviews covers the latter). This combination won't win any performance awards, but it certainly raised our eyebrows when we saw the $999 price. Naturally, that price comes with caveats: you must be a first-time Dish customer and subscribe to a couple of packages that amount to at least $40 per month. As with other satellite HD providers, you'll need an external antenna to watch local channels such as ABC and CBS, and not all stations even broadcast HDTV. Despite those issues, the fact remains that a 34-inch HDTV monitor alone costs at least $1,300--making Dish's system a great value. The Dish 811 HD receiver matches the 34-inch direct-view HDTV (model HD34-300, if you're keeping track) with its simple looks. It appears identical to the older Dish 6000, but with a silver finish. The HD34-300 is your basic wide-screen tube TV, also finished in silver, with a large Dish Network logo located in the center below the bottom of the screen. The set weighs about 170 pounds and measures 27 by 39 by 24 inches (H, W, D)--hey, don't expect a plasma-thin set for less than a grand.

Dish includes a single remote that controls both the TV and the satellite receiver--the same remote, in fact, that comes with the Dish Network Player-DVR 921. It's on the flashy side, with large purple, red, and yellow buttons for the most commonly used functions. Conveniently, pressing the Sat button powers on the TV and the receiver and switches the TV to the DVI input (the default connection used by Dish's installers). While having a single remote is expedient, you have to remember to switch between the receiver and the TV to access their respective menus. The internal menu of the TV is fairly straightforward, and the 811 receiver has the simple, tried-and-true menu from earlier Dish receivers rather than the newer version found on the 921. Especially considering the price, Dish's system has quite a respectable feature set. The HD34-300 TV shares the basic characteristics of other 34-inch HDTVs, including the ability to display both natively, without conversion. Since the TV cannot display 720p high def at all, you have to be sure to leave the receiver set to output 1080i only.

The TV includes some notable picture-enhancing features, such as the ability to turn off SVM for the best performance. Under the Advanced menu, there is a Contrast Expand feature with Low, Medium, and High settings, which we recommend you set at Low. Three selectable color temperatures are on tap here: Warm, Normal, and Cool. Warm proved to be the most accurate.

We counted a whopping seven picture presets, including one that we were able to customize and use for our evaluation. The TV has the welcome ability to remember custom picture settings for each input. The dual-tuner PIP includes a split-screen option, but it won't work with the component-video or DVI inputs. Although the HD34-300 is equipped with a healthy five aspect-ratio modes, none of them work with 480p or 1080i sources. This is less of an issue with HDTV (since the 811 receiver itself can resize aspect ratios) than it is with progressive-scan DVD, which you'll need to switch to interlaced mode to resize.

The 811 satellite receiver itself has an onboard ATSC antenna input for receiving off-air local HDTV channels. We really liked the RF remote, which allows you to stash the receiver out of sight and still control all of its functions.

Dish's system offers fairly comprehensive connection options between the two components. The 34HD300 TV includes two component-video inputs, one DVI input with HDCP copy protection, two A/V inputs with S-Video and composite-video jacks, an A/V output with composite video only, one set of variable audio outputs, and one RF input for antenna or--ironically--cable TV hookup. Side-panel A/V inputs with S-Video allow convenient camcorder or video game hookup.

The 811 receiver provides a DVI output, which we used for hookup to the TV. In addition, it furnishes one set of component-video outputs, one S-Video output, two A/V outputs with composite video, an antenna input for off-air HDTV, and two sets of A/V inputs with composite video. These last two allow you to hook external devices to the receiver instead of to the TV--you select these inputs just like you would any other channel on Dish's program guide. The Dish package's picture quality depends primarily on the HD34-300 TV, which performed better than we expected. Its color decoding pushes red a bit but not as severely as many sets we've seen. This results in a slight reddish cast to skin tones, for example. Greens appeared quite a bit weaker than the ideal, so grassy fields don't look as healthy as they should. The video processing is poor, with no 2:3 pull-down detection; during the opening scene of Star Trek: Insurrection, the buildings and boats shimmered with artifacts. We strongly recommend you use a progressive-scan DVD player with the HD34-300.

We were unable to get into the service menu to calibrate the TV, so we had to live with the grayscale as determined by the Warm preset--which turned out to be pretty accurate. To be fair, we really don't expect many people to fork out the money to calibrate this set; the calibration would cost roughly a third as much as the system.

We adjusted the standard user-menu controls--brightness, sharpness, and so on--for the DVI input using a Sencore VP403 signal generator and one of the component-video inputs using Digital Video Essentials. Then, with the HDTV connected via the DVI and a DVD player hooked up to the component inputs, we sat back and watched some demo material. The big final race from Chapter 25 of Seabiscuit looked pretty good, as did the Shuttle Launch sequence on Digital Video Essentials. Turning to the HDNet Movie channel, we checked out 1492: Conquest of Paradise. Colors looked appropriately saturated and skin tones reasonably natural, even after we desaturated the color slightly to compensate for the red push. The set rendered details relatively sharply, though a bit more softly than we've seen on other 34-inch HDTVs, such as Sony's KV-34HS510.

Before color temp (20/100)6,875/7,200KGood
After color temp *N/A 
Before grayscale variation 20 to 100 IRE+/- 539 degrees KGood
After grayscale variation 20 to 100 IRE*N/A 
Overscan5%Average
Color decoder error: red+5%Average
Color decoder error: green-15%Poor
DC restorationAll patterns stableGood
2:3 pull-down, 24fpsNPoor
Edge enhancementYGood
*No service menu calibration was performed on this TV.

User opinions

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User Rating:
0.5 stars

out of 14 user reviews

Avoid Dish like the plague!

Pros: There are no pros. I had DirecTV and TIVO before and I had no idea how good I had it. All I wanted to do was upgrade to HD at an affordable price and Dish was my only choice. Now I'm stuck in a 2 year contract with Dish and it's a nightmare.

Cons: The customer service is non-existent. The price is more than they said it would be. Compared to TIVO, their DVR must have been designed by monkeys. Everything is half-assed with this service. Everything!

Review: Bottom line is you should be ashamed of even getting close to recommending anyone use Dish Network. Anyone reading this, beware! You will regret it if you go with Dish. Just read some of the reviews online and you'll see what I'm talking about. My 2 years will be up in January and the stories I've heard about what happens AFTER you cancel have got me dreading it.
User Rating:
0.5 stars

out of 14 user reviews

Dish TV? No Way. Destroys equipnment sent in error

Pros: two remotes and can view programs in two areas or TVs without need for a second receiver.

Cons: The have no regard for a persons privbate property. When a DVD recorder was sent to them in error instead of returning their receiver, they destroyed the recorder. They state this is their policy and refuse to compensate for the loss.

Review: I sent my DVD recorder to Dish Network instead of their receiver. They informed me it was destroyed and they would not compensate me for it.
I was a loyal Dish TV customer for many years. I canceled only because I could not get consistent local HD TV even with trying three different antennae. I could not get Local HD from Dish Network as they required a second dish pointing at my neighbor?s trees, which could not receive their satellite?s signal.
So, I received a box from them to return the receiver, etc by UPS. I discovered about a week later that I had sent my hard drive DVD recorder to them by mistake. When I discovered the error, I called them immediately.
The bottom line: Dish has a policy to DESTROY all non-Dish equipment they receive. They make NO ATTEMPT to notify the customer in any way whatsoever. They make no attempt to compenate for the loss of personal property they destroy.

They cannot take the time to even email a customer to inform them of the error. They did not actually say it, but in essence told me ?sorry Charlie? your S.O.L. They stated they had destroyed my equipment and WOULD NOT provide ANY compensation. That is all there is to it and you cannot do anything about it. Calling the corporate office and the ?executive resolutions Department? only served to confirm their policy and a further denial for compensation. YET, they expect me to return their satellite receiver or they will charge me a lot of money.

It is as if they just stole my $300 recorder, destroyed it and when discovered, refuse to pay for it. I acknowledged my error in returning the wrong device and would have been happy to pay for it?s return shipment. That was not even an option. If I had not discovered the error, the 30 day period for returning the Dish receiver would have lapsed and they would have charged me for it. They got you and you have no recourse. Well, I got the time, thus this letter to you.

I was stunned to say the least and infuriated that a company would treat others in this way, and even have a policy to put it into effect. Who could trust such a company that treats people this way. Their actions and policy speaks loudly to their care about people, customer satisfaction, their regard for the personal property of others. They cannot be bothered! Then, who would be bothered to do business with people like this?
User Rating:
0.5 stars

out of 14 user reviews

Direct TV has the worst Customer Service or should

Pros: Nothing their lousy customer service and the run around is terrible. Each time I contact them I have to talk with at least 4 to five people before anyone even tries to help. Usually after that time it is too late.

Cons: there is nothing good

Review: I can hardly wait for my contract to expire with DIrect TV. If you try to get the name and email address of the customer service manager, no one from there will give you this information. They do not want you talking with the Customer Service manager. They will only give you a post office box and no name so if you have a customer service issue you will never receive a reply, i wrote to them some 4 months ago and have never heard anything. Tried calling the 800 number that was as usually worthless. I am truly supprised that some irrated customer hasn't gone to there offices and blowned half of the so call service personal away. They could care less about any problem you may have. They deducted $79.99 (a service call which they agree earlier that I would not be charged for out of my checking account. About two years earlier I gave them my Atm card so that they could deduct a service charge from my account. A one time thing. Two years later they deducted the service call that they agree I would not be charged for out of my account. When I called them on it they informed me it would take 8 weeks to return the money to my account. They wanted to just issue me a credit from them. When I said no I wanted the money put back into my account, that is where the problem began. I am in the process of getting a lawyer to get the money back. I know it may not be worth it, but no one in there organization cares. If anyone out there has any ideas please notify me...Thanks in advance. Oh also if anyone has a High DEf.Receiver, silver, they are having a recall but won't notify customer, the only way you get it replaced is to call. The recall is that the unit overheats, and can actually get so hot you can't put you hand on it, and has melted the plastic casing. This to me is a safty issue but when you tell direct that they say that the company hasn't nor will they notify customer. They had rather your house burn down than to replace a faulty receiver. Please if you have the silver High Def. receiver box, call Direct TV and have it replace and above all do not put anything combustible on or near it.
User Rating:
0.5 stars

out of 14 user reviews

Horrible Service

Pros: None that I can think of...

Cons: Everything about this company is a "Con"

Review: DISH network's customer service and reception are horrible. DO NOT GET LOCKED INTO A CONTRACT!!! I am paying to get out of my contract. I'd rather have rabbit ears hooked up to my HDTV (it would look MUCH better). If the VOOM HD channels are your draw. Don't get fooled. Run for cover. The picture on most of their HD networks was about as good as a DVD movie @480i. I was thorougly disgusted when I saw the reception of the non-HD channels. In summary, if you have to choose between Dish TV or no TV at all...read a magazine. Lay your HDTV on its back and use the screen as a table to read your magazine. The pictures in your magazine will blow the picture from DISH
User Rating:
0.5 stars

out of 14 user reviews

Direct TV has the worst customer service!!!!

Pros: NONE - LACK OF CUSTOMER SERVICE IS NOT WORTH ANYTHING DIRECT TV HAS TO OFFER

Cons: ALL - LACK OF CUSTOMER SERVICE IS NOT WORTH ANYTHING DIRECT TV HAS TO OFFER

Review: PLEASE SEE THE LETTER I WROTE TO DIRECT TV 11.11.2006

Your technician arrived at my house last Tuesday and set up 1 out of 6 boxes. He then left my house. After spending 90 minutes on the phone with Direct TV, your company suggested sending out another technician. I was told by the local office that the manager would be calling me that afternoon. He never showed up or even bothered to call. The next day, I was promised the manager would be calling by mid morning. Once again he did not call or show up. This all comes after a "lost work order" for my install that backed it up 2 weeks, 2 calls that were promised to be returned by management that were never received, an excessive amount of time wasted by me, and numerous headaches and frustration. I'm not even sure what I'm paying for at this point. I have now spoken with at least a dozen Direct TV employees all expressing their sorrow for my situation, only to pass the buck on to the next guy who doesn't give a rats ass about me. It has been handsdown the worst customer service I have ever received. It's hard for me to beleive a company of your size allows this sort of thing to go on. In any other company someone would lose their job for the blatant disregard your people have had for me and my family.

Please feel free to contact me if any of you people give a s*** about my service or my money!!!

In the mean time I will tell everyone that I know the way that I was treated and the horrible service your company provides.

Yours truly

K. Hussey
225.756.**** home
970.390.**** cell
*****@unitedfw.com
User Rating:
4.5 stars

out of 14 user reviews

Love it cheap hdtv come on

Pros: Cheap, Actual hdtv, big screen

Cons: Heavy as Hell, need bigger screen and wider screen

Review: I bought together with a receiver from dish network and now I have comcast cable and have no problem. I have no plans in moving anytime soon so that is the only reason I am happy due to the fact I dont have lug this heavy f$%# to the new apartment. Cheap Cheap
User Rating:
4.0 stars

out of 14 user reviews

Great Picture, Size, and Price!!

Pros: Picture is beautiful, size is great for EVERYONE!

Cons: Very Large in size and hard to find a stand

Review: My husband and I baught the TV for $850 after tax. We have been really happy with the set. It's picture quality is WONDERFUL and watching movies on it is fantastic! Plus all the inputs and outputs it has on it.. makes for multiple entertainment usage.
The only downfall I could find was the size.. we ended up having to use a HUGE wooden desk to set it on as we couldn't find a stand sturdy enough to hold its near 200 pound body.. plus the room it takes up in the back.. Wish it could be lighter and thinner.
Over all we are delighted with the set!
THanks!
User Rating:
4.0 stars

out of 14 user reviews

great pics with hd programing

Pros: price only 699. half of with is available from Best Buy and circut city

Cons: it big had to mod my cabinets to fit has deep neck

Review: I could not pass it up for the price It is will worth it.Did not know of over 25 hd off-air channels in the chicago market tho most have little hd programing Cnet you should check with Dishnetwork for they do not offer it on their website tomk.
User Rating:
3.5 stars

out of 14 user reviews

Can't complain, since it was on sale for $596

Pros: I got a great deal thru HHGREGG. Good picture at a great price - my family and I are not complaining.

Cons: Bulky and heavy. The HDTV doesn't look good without the HDTV decoder box - on back order with the cable company. DVDs look good. TIVO menu looks a little fuzzy.

Review:
User Rating:
3.5 stars

out of 14 user reviews

These are now only $700!!

Pros: Called Dish Network and pleasantly surprised to find that the price is only $700. Plus, the 34" HD CRT has the DVI cable included! The DVI cable is worth $100 alone. Dish is offering half a year free of their HD Channels too. For the money, this can't

Cons: Deep in size and heavy.

Review:
User Rating:
2.0 stars

out of 14 user reviews

SD is not Sharp

Pros: HD picture quality is great, and at a reasonable price

Cons: SD channels are not crisp, poor technical support.

Review:
User Rating:
4.0 stars

out of 14 user reviews

Unbelievable bang for the buck!

Pros: DVI input, wide screen format, produces great HDTV images with the bundled Dish Network 811 receiver

Cons: none when you consider the cost.

Review:
User Rating:
4.0 stars

out of 14 user reviews

Great buy for $1,000

Pros: The price. At this price to get me in HDTV has made me and my family very happy. I love the picture when watching HD and DVD's. The receiver is being updated by Dish Network all the time, which is making it work much better then when it came out of the b

Cons: I had to send the first TV back, I didn't like the way the bars on 4:3 format was ( they had a curve to them). The size, it is very deep and weight, 170lb.

Review:
User Rating:
3.0 stars

out of 14 user reviews

40" is generally a good deal

Pros: HDTV picture quality is excellent. If you aren't a total video geek and want a way to get into HDTV "relatively" cheap and quick, this is it. Ordered mine on a Thurs and had it installed the following Tues. Receiving local stations over the air with no

Cons: Menus for TV and Dish Receiver are confusing. Full screen programming is still a little scarce.

Review:

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Dish Network HDTV System specifications

  • System
  • A/V System Recommended Use Home
  • V-Chip Control Yes
  • Audio System
  • Output Mode Stereo
  • Connectors
  • Optical Digital Output Yes
  • TV Tuner
  • TV tuner multi-channel preview Picture-out-of-picture (POP) , Picture-in-picture (PIP)
  • Secondary audio program (SAP) Yes
  • Television
  • Image Aspect Ratio 16:9
  • Video Features
  • Electronic Program Guide Digital EPG
  • Closed Caption Capability Yes
  • Satellite TV tuner
  • Tuner Qty 1.0
  • Clock & Alarm
  • Clock Yes
  • Timer Standby , Sleep , Wake
  • Remote Control
  • Type Universal remote control
  • Connections
  • Connector Type 1.0 x Audio line-in ( RJ-11 ) - Rear , 1.0 x Composite video/audio output ( Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm ) - Rear , 1.0 x RF input ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Rear , 1.0 x Component video output ( 4 pin mini-DIN ) - Rear , 2.0 x Audio line-out ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Rear , 1.0 x Composite video/audio input ( 4 pin mini-DIN ) - Rear , 1.0 x Composite video/audio output ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Side , 1.0 x Phone line ( RCA phono x 2 ) - Rear , 1.0 x RF input ( RCA phono x 2 ) - Rear , 1.0 x Headphones ( F connector ) - Rear , 2.0 x Composite video/audio input ( F connector ) - Rear , 1.0 x Composite video/audio input ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Rear , 1.0 x S-Video input ( 4 pin mini-DIN ) - Rear , 1.0 x S-Video input ( RCA phono ) - Rear , 2.0 x SPDIF output ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Rear , 1.0 x S-Video output ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Side , Component video input ( F connector ) - Rear , ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Rear , - Side , - Rear
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