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Windows Vista RC2

Entered CNET Catalog: 10/10/2006

SKU: CNETWINDOWSVISTARC2

Manufacturer: Microsoft Corp.

CNET editors' review

  • Editors' Choice: No
  • Reviewed on: 10/11/2006
With the release of Windows Vista RC2 build 5744, Microsoft hopes the operating system is good enough to hand over to hardware manufacturers by the end of November, with a final retail edition of Windows Vista expected in late January 2007. But after loading the new OS, we encountered numerous minor graphical glitches and at least one missing feature, leading us to think that the overall quality of this $399 Windows Vista Ultimate edition does not deserve final release candidate status. We expect to see at least one more interim build, or perhaps even another release candidate, soon if Microsoft is to stay on schedule. For a look inside, see our Windows Vista RC2 build 5744 slide show.

If our installation process is any indication, Windows Vista RC2 is not yet ready for prime time. Our initial installation--a clean install on a clean partition on an Acer TravelMate 8200 laptop using a disc provided by Microsoft--took much longer than installations of previous build releases on the same machine. Windows Vista RC2 build 5744 required slightly more than one hour, whereas previous installs have trended toward 40 minutes or less. A second install of build 5744 improved only slightly, taking 50 minutes. Although many will simply buy a new PC already preloaded with Windows Vista, the sluggish installation is a step backward for those planning to upgrade.

At this late date, there should be no new features within Windows Vista RC2; however, there are a few new "fit and finish" additions within this release. There's now a Windows Vista Demo package that includes basic videos on how to use e-mail, the Internet, and files and folders (which are handled differently within Windows Vista), as well as how to send items to the printers, secure your PC, and set up user accounts. The videos also come with a transcript if you'd prefer to read instead.

In previous builds, we've been able to load our familiar Windows XP applications on Windows Vista with little difficulty. Not true with Windows Vista RC2 build 5744. We use TechSmith Camtasia to create and edit CNET Reviews videos, but unlike previous builds, within Windows Vista RC2 we were unable to display the playback, making edits impossible. A compatibility dialog box advised us that we needed the flash.ocx file from Adobe Flash, which is not included within Windows Vista, but after installing that, we were still unable to use the video playback. While Microsoft is giving software developers 90 days (more or less) to ready developers' products for a mass release of Windows Vista, we were surprised to find that lack of compatibility was a major issue in this release candidate.

Missing within Windows Vista RC2 is the Program Compatibility Wizard from Windows Vista RC1. This wizard helped fool older applications into thinking they were running previous versions of Windows. With Windows Vista RC1, we were able to run a Windows 95 game demo with only 256-bit graphics within Windows Vista with no glitches. It seems odd, given that program compatibility is a major headache for users upgrading to a new OS, that Microsoft would suddenly drop this feature.

We were also surprised to find within Windows Vista RC2 some unresolved issues left over from the May 2006 Windows Vista beta 2 release. Under Windows XP, our Acer TravelMate 8200 enjoyed a comfortable 3 hours, 20 minutes of battery life--more than enough to watch a DVD of any major motion picture released these days. Under Windows Vista beta 2 build 5384.4 running Aero, the battery life dropped considerably, to a mere 2 hours. With Windows Vista RC2 build 4755 running Aero, battery life improved only slightly--to 2 hours, 15 minutes. For all the press about how Windows Vista will be good for laptops, we remain skeptical, given that battery life is an important feature. We also had problems with our Windows Vista laptop going to sleep and not waking up. Our experience in Windows Vista RC2 was much improved from that of Windows Vista beta 2; nonetheless, this issue should be fully resolved by now.

We also found that our Windows Vista RC2 Aero graphics system experienced occasional annoying glitches. For example, whenever the Windows Vista User Account Control feature kicked in, specifically when our desktop darkens in its Secure mode to ask us to obtain the system administrator's permission, we still see a jagged lightning bolt across the darkened screen. We reported this Windows Vista RC1-introduced anomaly last month, but we found that it hadn't been fixed in RC2. Also, we found other numerous minor graphical glitches introduced with this build when our screen graphic elements-- and even program icons--occasionally failed to display properly.

Windows Vista provides a vast landscape of features, some of which we haven't yet had a chance to test in this build, but by merely scratching the surface, we were considerably less impressed with this build than previous builds. Given that Windows Vista includes Internet updates as part of the installation process, Microsoft has said it might release the existing code to manufacturers and patch Windows Vista systems remotely upon installation and activation. Again, the flaws apparent in Windows Vista RC2 aren't dramatic, but they're annoying. If we bought a new Windows Vista computer today, we'd be disappointed; if we upgraded, we'd more than a little frustrated. The version we tested is expected to sell for $399, but we demand much higher quality from Microsoft than what we're seeing today.

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User Rating: 10/10

YOU ARE WRONG!

Pros: I ran SP2 Beta for three monthes and it was sweet as a nut. No problems whatsoever

Cons: Their is nothing wrong with it.

Review: All of the functions work just fine as does everything else. The bottom line is that people love to complain about stuff they do not even understand.

User Rating: 2/10

Slooooooooooow

Pros: Well I havent had it long enough to find out

Cons: Sloooooooooooow

Review: I just got a new dell laptop with Vista installed. I cant stand it. Just trying to do simple things takes forever. Almost a minute just to open the control panel. It's like a very slow web page opening.
Right now, I'm FIFTEEN minutes into uninstalling Microsoft works. No uninstall should EVER take this long

User Rating: 1/10

Vista: More Primitive than XP. Important, Pease Read

Pros: None that I've seen

Cons: Securities are excessive and Do not Work as promized

Review: I just bought a brand New PC with Vista Home Premium 32-bit installed. Trying to remove unwanted programs is a nightmare, the securities will Not allow you to remove a lot of stuff, because a lot of the critical folders are not readily accessible (Vista Denies Access to them).

To laugh about, the new Virus protection is GARBAGE. Vista allowed two trojan viruses to install without trouble in my brand new PC, but trying to remove them is next to impossible because Vista restricts access to the folders, so no Antivirus software can do their Job properly. Gaining access to folders is next to impossible. If you are not "good with computers" you most likely won't figure out how to gain acces to your own PC. I have been succesfull in gaining some access, but I do not yet have complete access to my system. So those trojan viruses are still in my hard drive. The only thing preventing them from executing tight now is my Third Party antivirus. It can stop the file from executing, but cannot delete it apparently due to Vista access restrictions.

A big nuisance. When a program is fine working but taking some time, say like Outlook downloading the emails. Vista sees it as if the program stopped working. It pops up a window to tell you about it. In the process, it freezes the program, and will not release it until you press a button. Your choice is CLOSE THE PROGRAM. So what do you do? You can click on the little X at the top right to close the window. Then the program that windows wanted to close for you goes back to working normally. This feature serves no useful purpose. It asks me all the time to close my antivirus and firewall because it thinks they froze.

I'm not going to say anything for the "User Account Access" feature because I just turned it off because it was so absolutely annoying. It tells you that a program is about to be executed. It does this for all programs, so every time you click on anything, Vista pops up the window. So that it can be worse, Vista first pops up a window to tell you that a program is about to be executed. You say, ok, then that window closes. Then another window pops up to finally ask you for your permision. By then the program that was trying to load declares a timeout error and quits on you. So I turned the feature off. All the background programs load without asking for permission, so should a virus wanted to install itself into the computer, what are the chances this feature will catch it?

Many old windows features No longer exist. They are just no part of the new OS. Also a lot of the icons look like ancient windows 3.1, and the programs seem to behave like they did with windows 3.1. Moreover, a lot of the newer software versions (example NERO7.5, Norton Util., etc) will not work with Vista, including the newer programs labeled "Program Name"2007. So if you have any 2007 software Good luck.
As for the Hardware, I tried to install some accessories, but guess what, the hardware is not Vista compatible (this is new to me, but it is what the error message says). It is not a software problem, the drivers available anywhere are just not compatible, and no new drivers are expected to surface. For other hardware I did have to download drivers: for the Mouse, and Keyboard downloads were required even thought they are both Microsoft brand. Go figure.

Oh!, very important, if you want to try to backup movies, or music or original software CD's, Good Luck, Vista Will Block you, and its smart enough to not let you use third party software to do the job (Microsoft Monopoly). I had first heard of this. I tried a few things, and it seems to be true. Vista won't let you.

One last thing. Did anyone else observe this? I am not sure if this has anything to do with the OS, but to check before I speak, I checked double checked, and just tried it again, but many of the sites I tried to get to using the Internet Explorer to read "Windows Vista User Reviews," including this site, would just not load, with the word "User" being key. The only site that readily loaded was, Guess, the Microsoft site with all the wonderful things about their new OS. The only way I got to see any user reviews was to get the firefox browser, which I've been avoiding to do for the longest time because it looked like more junk. Everything loads ok in it. I really hope I'm wrong about microsoft controlling what you see with their browser, but as of now, the facts are not in microsoft's favor.

Overall the Vista appears more primitive than old XP. Many old features just no longer exist. The new features appear to be for the benefit of Microsoft ONLY. Nothing that is new makes your life easier. The new colors and shadows are nothing but a lure, just like those carnivorous flowers that attract insects with their pretty colors and then eat them. If you decide for Vista, You'll end up feeling much like an insect that just realized it got eaten.

User Rating: 1/10

Worst OS ever !!!

Pros: aero glass effect..

Cons: Everything else.

Review: I recently bought a dell PC with vista basic home edition. Had a pretty good processor with decent RAM (2GB).. I couldn't believe that it wasn't good enough for vista to run at a decent speed. Everything seemed slow. It had 1000s of annoying prompts before it lets you run any program.

Looks like a good security attempt by microsoft but they over did it...!!! interface is given a higher priority over performance which makes things worse. I switched to Xp the day I first used Vista.

would not recommend Vista to anybody !!!

User Rating: 2/10

Extremely rough around the edges (and in the middle)

Pros: Smooth Aero interface and excellent gaming performance so far

Cons: Pretty much everything else.... That Microsoft would call this a release candidate is a joke.

Review: I currently have RC1 of Windows Vista Ultimate on a system I built with brand new components all said to be Vista Premium ready. I would like to note that I was one of the thousands of official beta testers for Windows XP Pro, and I didn't have near the compatibility and installation issues I'm having with a RELEASE CANDIDATE of Vista.

After the first lengthly install of the 64-bit edition I was dismayed to find that NONE of my software (except games) would operate in the 64-bit environment, compatibility mode or otherwise. Security software I tried to install, such as Norton, said it required Windows XP w/Service Pack 2 installed. When run in said compatibility mode, it complained that it wouldn't run in a 64-bit Windows XP environment. Several other non-security applications I attempted to install gave me similar responses and would not function, so I did a new clean install of the 32-bit edition. None of my security software would install - due to different error messages this time - and some of my misc. applications installed a little better. Games still ran great, in part to my 7600GT nVidia graphics card, but Vista performed admirably and hasn't crashed in a single game for me yet.

Another huge con - and this may be because of something unique to my setup which I have yet to discover - is that I cannot play DVDs or MPEG videos for the life of me. Media center runs quickly and smoothly for photos and music, and my Hauppauge MCE TV tuner appears in the Device Manager to be installed and functioning correctly, but TV playback will not work. DVD playback will not work. In Windows Media Player I get an error message about not having enough memory, and in Media Center I get a "decoder error" message. I've reinstalled Vista three times. I've tried 8 different DVD player programs with their own decoders, including some that tout Vista compatibility, and I have yet to be able to play a DVD. I get no audio, no video. I've removed the tuner card, I've updated my nVidia drivers, and I still have had no success after working with this for days.

Another con: Every single time I open or install a new program I'm bombarded by a relentless assault of popups asking me for permission. When I am logged in as an ADMINISTRATOR and I click on an application it is because I WANT TO RUN IT. I might be stupid, but Vista treats me like I'm even more stupid by asking for verification every step of the way. As a system administrator of several small wireless networks in apartments and offices, I don't look forward to upgrading systems to Vista and having to go through hundreds of prompts just to install software on different computers on the network. The reason I double click on an app or exe file is because I want to run it. Please let me know if I'm the only person in the world that finds this ridiculous.

I also welcome any advice on the DVD/MPEG decoder problem I'm having. HELP!

User Rating: 2/10

Windows Vista is terrible

Pros: good interface

Cons: Way to slow, hogs up ram nothin left for anything else

Review: Windows Vista is useless. It is almost worse than Xp and has taken 5 yrs. i am almost ready to buy a mac (i cant believe it). It is so slow and needs al least 2gb of RAM which is really expensive. the only reason i can give it a two is because the interface is pretty good.

User Rating: 1/10

good first impression then .....

Pros: Quick on its own programs maximizes pc

Cons: OH HELL NO THIS SUCKS!!!!

Review: Windows vista is like the first snow of the year oooo ahhh now i want spring to come. My first issue was speed. While testing it on 3 diffrent pcs I got annoyed as hell. Even on my Athlon 5000+ X2 64 Bit proccessor Windows XP 64 bit edition runs a hell of a lot faster. My second issue... How many of you use 16 bit apps? If you didnt raise your hand you shouldnt even bother reading my statement. THEY ELIMINATED DOS COMPLETELY. Over half of the apps that you go to the store and buy today are 16 bit which mean DUN DUN DUN THEY WONT RUN ON VISTA. Server files for games. Oh hell you might as well just play on someone elses pc instead of your own becouse it aint happening. Emulators for systems you cant get anymore out the window. Or rather out of windows. DOS while it may not seem very importaint to the average user is the best way to modify and create programs even today. The whole using the wheel button on the mouse in order to go from window to window is annoying as well Its much easyer just to click on the bottom bar on your screen. It also uses 15 GIGS of hard drive space. While to me Thats nothing considering i have 2 350 GIG HDs in my pc, to some people with older systems that have say only 100 GIG hard drive Thats over 10 Percent of your harddrive space. And hell if your even bothering looking at your pc and you only have a 40 or 60 gig hard drive hell thats only a couple of DVDs backed up away from being filled. Do you know how long it takes just to do a low level defrag on 15 GIGS ??? I mean come on. It will prob be another year before i will either bother to switch which is really strange for me i mean i just sold my athlon 4200 so i could get my athlon 5000 you get the picture. By then they should have programs that will run on it. I never ever EVER thought I would say this by MAC's OS X is better than this ****. Its a pretty version of XP that cant run anything right now. IN january enjoy vista. Then when you have to buy Windows XP becouse of the fact that you couldnt get the damn thing to work properly dont say we didnt warn you.

User Rating: 2/10

Microsoft should give it away free to all it customers who payed for XP

Pros: none if not given as update to XP

Cons: Cost is way out of line. Microsoft is and has been ripping people off.

Review: With all the problems Windows XP had, this should be given as an update. People should boycot this product from Microsoft, in revolt for the problems with XP. They should not pay money of any kind for this product. Microsoft needs to earn back its customer base before anyone trust them again.

User Rating: 1/10

Typical Microsoft... I'll wait

Pros: looks similar to OSX

Cons: buggy, incompatible, hog

Review: When the bugs are worked out I'll upgrade my XP.

User Rating: 5/10

Not Ready.

Pros: Looks pretty

Cons: Many bugs and missing a lot of drivers.

Review: This OS is just not ready. Two blue-screens while installing. Missing drivers for NVidia and Creative Sound Blaster. Finds drivers but can't load,no sound and uses WDA driver for video. I know they just signed an agreement with NVidia, but come on, no divers for common sound and video cards.

User Rating: 10/10

CNET DONT KNOW HOW TO RATE THINGS

Pros: VISTA RC2 IS ALOT BETTER

Cons: NO CONS HERE ON MY PART

Review: Ok I read the CNET reviews on the RC2. Ok either this person that did the review dont know how to use Vista or the computer he had sucked. I downloaded and have been using Vista RC2 since the downloads opened up for it. And this is the best Vista release so far. Its alot FASTER alot more STABLE. Also about they dropped the compatibility controls...well GUY LOOK HARDER because it is still there. Also there is no graphical glitches AT ALL. Also the install I timed it with a stopwatch and it took 34mins and 23secs for it to install windows with a new install. So I think CNET GUY needs to retest it again. I have a EMachines Intel Celeron d 3.20gz, 1gb ram, 80gb 5400RPM HD, 256mb Nvidia 7300 video and this computer runs better with RC2 than it did with Windows XP. So I think that CNET GUY that tested RC2 needs to try it again.

User Rating: 6/10

not much better then xp pro

Pros: installs new programs very quickly

Cons: way too secure for the average user. Just try to disable one of three pop-up's when installing a new program

Review: RC2 is an incredible leap from RC1, but I still need more convincing, as the OS needs to be more user friendly.
I don't like the machine deciding for me when it's going to do something, and Vista tries to do it all for you. Defrag? it's now a line that says, "...Defragmenting in progress, this could take minutes or hours.", and there is no window, or progress bar to show you what's happening.
I like the on board toys, areo and gadgets, but all in all, I think I'll stick to XP Pro.

User Rating: 2/10

It is a mistake

Pros: I can not say there are any

Cons: It blew away my windows XP system

Review: Microsoft sent me the disc to upgrade to
Windows Vista RC2. Since it came from Microsoft. I did the dumb thing and assume it was safe to install. I read the directions and follow them. Worse mistake I have ever done on the computer. Unless your are an expert I would not advise anyone to down load the program. It took $306 dollars working with a Tech support group to get my computer back to almost completely the way it was before I installed the program.

User Rating: 5/10

Handsome, but still need improvement ...

Pros: Run smooth, animation is great, no pop-ups during installation.

Cons: No way to make partitions during installation, heavy firewall (too much questions of asking approval), most software cannot support it.

Review: Microsoft Windows Vista RC2 Build 5744 32bit

Do you remember the day you first laid your mouse pointer on WinXP in 2001? Switching from Win98 or ME to WnXP is complicated.

Today, Win Vista also gives you the same feeling but somehow it's similar to WinXP. Just that there's a lot of features hidden. You need to take a few steps to get to where you want. Explore it and you'll know what i mean.

This version is bootable. Just insert it into your DVD-ROM and left it there. There no such thing as making partitions and selecting secondary language (E.g. Chinese PRC), and nothing pop up during installation like setting workgroup for networking. Everything run smooth. How am I going to set partitions on my new HDD next time?

My system :
AMD Athlon XP 1500 (1.33Ghz)
768Mb DDR 400 RAM
ATI 9550 GT 128 Mb
Asus A7N8X-X board

Everything is running fine but it's a little bit heavier than WinXP. Like the difference between 98 and ME (fresh installation without additional software). But somehow it won't crash like ME. Installation takes 40 mins (clean installation on a 40 Gb Maxtor single partition HDD). Logging for the first time takes about 5-7 mins. I love this version of windows. it's modern and the the animation is great.

However, there's a lot of problems like no antivirus is compatible so far (AVG 7.1 & 7.5, Norton AV 2003 & 2005). None of them work. So, i switch back to XP. One more thing, microsoft must be kidding when there's some kind of pop-ups asking "mum, can i do this? Are you sure ... it not certified bla bla bla....". I hate this. Please change it...very ignoring. I've off the automatic updates and disable the firewall man!!! Still the same problems.

It¡¦s not ready for use. Maybe we can consider buying it at least 6 months after Microsoft release a complete version¡K

User Rating: 10/10

Windows Vista is already PERFECT!

Pros: Best ever.,believe me.

Cons: Bye XP! Forever.

Review: Hi,

I'm the one of the lucky people who got the full exemplar of Windows Vista Ultimate RC1 across a computer magazine, i've registered, and everything works perfectly in Vista, and we all know, Ultimate is actually the largest version of Vista. It is so much better than XP, if you try, you don't want anything else, fresh, easy interface, modern, friendly and STABLE. And really good protected. So, congratulation Microsoft!!!

User Rating: 2/10

Same impossibly complex UI in a new package

Pros: It's new..........

Cons: It's still Windows...

Review: Way too many versions for any sane company to even contemplate releasing, and a security nightmare to be fought at user (and taxpayer) expense.

User Rating: 5/10

I agree with CNET!! Vista will have many bugs

Pros: it looks more reliable product and easier to use

Cons: will never be reliable by end of 2006

Review: wait until it is a very reliable product before selling it retail!! It has been a long wait with anoying windows system, wait until Vista is much more reliable than Windows..
Tony

User Rating: 8/10

Using it every day now

Pros: Faster, more secure, lots of new features

Cons: Needs more driver support (up to hardware vendors)

Review: After testing Vista throughout its development cycle, this has been the best and most polished build by far. Installation times were great (18 minutes to desktop), and all devices were installed and run fine on my 2 year old MCE system. While there are still a few minor annoyance bugs, they are just that - minor annoyances. Vista is a great improvement over XP and if Microsoft can fix the final set of bugs, I think it will be well received by the public. Can it be better? Of course, but software development is always an ongoing process.

User Rating: 4/10

Not quite ready yet

Pros: Completely 32 bit (no more DOS, only DOS Emulation)

Cons: User interface changed drastically with no way to revert back or customize. Steep learning curve

Review: Overall the Vista RC2 "demo" shows just how far off-base M$ has gotten with Windows. It's not really a new version of Windows as it is a new OS with a barely-similar looking interface. It is very different with no means of changing it to the older familiar and IMO more intuitive format. Toolbar-like additions seem oddly placed, are permanently placed (can't hide/remove them) and often require more steps to do the simple tasks you need to do daily to just get around in the system.

The new interface coloring is nice, in that you can customize the transparency of BG windows, and the exact shade/hue of it. The bad news is you can't realistically remove it. Turning it off for the "Classic" theme removes the bordered edges and some of the spacing of the window making the interface seem incomplete and like pieces are literally missing.

There are some improvements, such as the document type recognition (which with hidden file extensions make it look like a MacIntosh desktop a lot more) are much more reliable and actually work well. The "media center" is irritatingly simplistic and tends to want to take over everything you're doing when it's running, and even more irritating, only looks at pay sources for media input. It doesn't do a great job at allowing you to, for example, find images through it from a Yahoo or Google or even MSN search engine with free results like you can do in Internet Explorer or Firefox (or any other browser).

On that note, Internet Explorer is the same IE 7 Beta 2 release that is floating around online for free download (from M$), same errors, shortcomings and all. Most troublesome are the lack of updates and the lack of a true engine overhaul/upgrade to keep with the current W3C Standards.

Vista does show signs of promise. The UI while akward and somewhat difficult to learn shows signs of being relatively simple to master. And despite having to acknowledge a change to the desktop or start menu (any system level change) THREE TIMES (Are you sure? -> Yes... This is happening -> Do it. Are you sure you want to let this happen? ->YES!) before it will do it, which makes customizing the start menu a ROYAL PAIN having to wait about 5-8 seconds and basically say yes three times to delete or move EACH LINK in the menu. But some of the changes are nice. The OS has a Calender compliant with ICS (iCal) standards, a seperate Address Book from Outlook/Outlook Express that uses VCards and easily imports/exports them (and older WAB windows Address Book formats) and a set of spyware and antivirus type prevention tools (Windows "Defender" beta - not great, but useful and useable). With some work Vista CAN be a good OS and much better and more powerful than XP, but for now XP is the better option - with the right security added of course.

User Rating: 7/10

What about the auto opening of drive tray?

Pros: No advantage regarding this issue.

Cons: Could cause damage to DVD tray mechanism.

Review: When hovering over the emply drive tray (in left pane of explorer) while dragging a file to drop in a folder, if you are too slow while passing over the DVD drive, the tray opens. Similarly when clicking the DVD drive if it is emply causes the tray to open. The problem here is with computers with a drive bay door. When the door is closed, and the tray tries to open, it just keeps going back and forth within the space between the drive and the door, which IMO can cause damage to the tray mechanism. They call this by design and won't fix. Any design that can damage the computer IMO is poor design.

User Rating: 2/10

Awesome Looks (Thats about it)

Pros: New Design Concept

Cons: System Requirements, Adaptability, Poor Compatibility

Review: When I had Windows Vista RC2 I first noticed how magnificant and awesome the design looked compared to Windows XP. But after using it for a couple of days I wanted XP back. Windows Vista uses up apx 700mb of ram alone and when installed on my computer my processor(Core 2 Duo 7600) was always being used at almost half capacity even when I was not running any programs at all. Also almost none of my previous XP software applications worked on Vista, not to mention my hardware!!!, and Vista offered little to no help on solving these problems. Even my PC games didnt work on Vista, like for example Warcraft 3. Overall I think Vista still has many problems with it and that becuase of the massive ram and processing power needed just for the visual effects to be shown for the new aero user interface, I think there should be definate cutbacks on the visual interface.

User Rating: 4/10

Security issues, no great difference and bugs

Pros: Keeps novices out of Administration group

Cons: Same old problem with shared DLL's

Review: Years ago MS talked about solving the shared DLL problems. The
war between software makers driffting outside compatiblity in shared DLL's to customize them just a teeny little bit and therby screwing up the former software that originally installed or used the original shared DLL. Actually if each programs files were kept in their own Dir with a sub dir system dir for them, it would avoid the constant reloading power users do to keep up the speed of their PC.
WindowBlinds by Stardock can Imitate all of the fancy aeroglass transperency without the overhead or cost of a new video card and faster processor.

User Rating: 9/10

Vista is rock solid at RC2 but bugs do remain

Pros: Solid OS. Runs all my apps, Fast and feels secure

Cons: Embedded WMV locks OS, blue screen, reboots

Review: As a Windows OS, Vista is rock solid. I run tons of apps and test a lot of stuff and RC2 had No problem with any of it. I don't like having Java apps kill my Aero theme though. And if I am on a website that has an embedded WMV, Vista freezes, locks up then reboots. I don't know if something I have installed is causing that or if it is the itself but Vista Support tells me it has to do with NVidia drivers not yet supplied to Vista. Other than that, it's fast and with all the stuff I have installed, it hasn't slowed down one wit.

On the story, are you worried about your job to subtitle this bogus story not ready for prime time? You could have waited until it was released to talk about whatever it is you are talking about. It's pretty obvious it isn't ready for primetime since it's RC2. Nice try.

One thing for sure, those who saying stick with XP are those same voices that once said, "stick with 98". Now they are running XP and saying the same thing about Vista. Amazing.

User Rating: 7/10

Not Ready for Prime Time - Where's Scanner support

Pros: Beautiful interface...but to be expected after 5 years

Cons: Can't get scanner support for Multifunction printers

Review: I have a HP 7410 deskjet and a Visioneer 8700 and an HP G95 Deskjet..can't get any to work with RC1 or RC2.

The 7400 works as a printer wireless and direct but the scanner support seems very weak.

The only Scanner available in Control panel is a Xerox driver?? I don't see many success stories of other people when I searched Google also.

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista_beta2_04.asp

User Rating: 4/10

Slow & Obtuse

Pros: Pretty, I'll give you that

Cons: Made my 2.4 Ghz P4 run like a slug

Review: I have installed Vista beta 2, RC1 & RC1 on 4 different machines. Basically the same results on all four - more than 1 hour to install and painfully slow in operation. All four machines ran fine when reimaged with XP SP2

The user interface changes were very frustrating. Constantly trying to figure out things I already knew how to do but now those features are hidden. Will Microsoft NEVER LEARN that untraining millions of people by re-arranging the user interface IS NOT a productivity booster? (Wait until you see my review of Office 2007)

My business (more than 1,000 desktops) will be running XP for years to come (my call, BTW).

Now if only we could get some ISVs to write for the MAC...

User Rating: 7/10

Don't Rush to Release

Pros: Microsoft:: Take your time, get it right

Cons: Third Parties (Hard-Software) will be the main screw-ups

Review: The reviewer could have been more precise with findings.

In June I installed Vista Beta 2 on a space 5-year old Dell Dimension P-4 with 500 MB RAM that I purchased at a garage sale. It was a clean install taking about two hours.

I did not install any hardware because obviously there was no driver support from third parties. So that is a none-issue. I also installed Office 2007; there was no need to install AV software. The graphics card did not support Aero; no big deal.

In September, I installed Vista RC1; it took about 90 minutes. My impression is that there were many navigational improvements. It works as designed, although I am sure there is some behind-the-scenes work to be done. I want to see RC2.

My real hope is that Microsoft does not rush to release to appease the Christmas crowd. It would be strategic mistake to release early and then have a bug-correcting service pack by mid-year.

I also believe that most glitches will come from:
=== third party software developers who got lazy with their coding.
=== hardware developers who couldn?t get their drivers ready in time.

As a footnote, I would like to see cumulative Service Pack 3 CD for XP sometime next year.

User Rating: 10/10

Vista RC2 runs faster than Windows XP

Pros: Vista RC2 runs faster than Windows XP

Cons: The cost is high

Review: Windows Vista RC2 runs faster than Windows XP SP2 on my 5 years old computer. I'm very happy with Vista.
Updated
I've installed Windows Vista RC2 in about 30 minutes, as a fresh installation in my 5 years old PC so the CNET.COM review is totally WRONG!!!
Flash Player 9 worked fine in Vista RC2 after web installation; after the installation the flash movies immediately play fine, so the CNET.COM reviews is totally WRONG!!!

User Rating: 7/10

There is still a Program Compatibility Wizard

Pros: Some bugs fixed

Cons: noticable bugs, UAC EXTREMELY ANNOYING

Review: Hey CNet, the Program Compatibility Wizard is not gone. You cannot just search it in the search box to find it. In RC1, the wizard was clearly available on the desktop. On RC2, however, it is very different. You have to A) Go to Control Panel>Programs>Progtams and Features>Use an Older Program with this Version of Windows OR you can B)Right Click on the program, click properties, click Compatibility and waalah! This does not show up in the searches CNET. You guys really need to take slightly more time exploring Vista with each build. Some things change with each build, but you really have to dig for some stuff. This probably does not really matter anyways as we are approaching the last builds of vista. Maybe in Vienna you guys will get these reviews right. This review is flawed. But heres my opinion of build 5744. I see no noticable difference between this and the previous RC 1 Build 5600. It runs pretty much the same. I note that Vista has gotten a bit annoying with the UAC notices. Also, in RC1, when i chose the Sidebar to be on top of other windows all the time, the sidebar would shade into the desktop when all the windows i have open when it is not maximized. Now, it just have this block line, no shading. I call for RC3. Vista is definitely not ready for prime time. I especially hate how some of it has gotten less intuitive. Clarity? On some counts, yes, but on others? No. For example, before, i could right click on the desktop and click properties. It would bring up a box where i could select everything for my pc appearance and its setttings appearance. Now, when i right click, i click personalize. It brings up a window with some buttons i can click to select the settings. I HATE that. It is very hard to get what I want done quickly. So there, I WANT RC3, but i dont think there will be one. On the side note, my installation was 10 minutes faster than RC1. It only took around 25 minutes this time.

User Rating: 4/10

Vista consistantly offers help but fails to do so

Pros: Exciting new features includeding this OS

Cons: This OS is bogged down with endless links, downloads, and questioning popups.

Review: I agree with most, I hope Microsoft holds back the release of this product until it becomes stable in ALL the applications it promises to deliver. The ideas behind this platform are GREAT but alot of buggs, distract from the overall picture.

User Rating: 2/10

It's worse than Beta 2!

Pros: Aero glass looks nice

Cons: graphics glitches, slow, too assuming of what you want or need to do

Review: I ran Beta 2 before this. I'm actually on RC1 and from what I've read and experienced won't bother with RC2. It seems to get WORSE as they go. Driver support from Nvidia and Creative Labs is horrible. My graphics run worse on the new Nvidia driver and Creative just came out with an RC1 driver over a month after it was released and it does nothing. I still have to use the WinXP 64 driver which only gives my steroe sound through Vista.

I realize this is in Beta still but being the monopoly on the OS market as Windows is, I expected much better, regular driver releases from the big players.

User Rating: 3/10

it's not worth the price, stay with xp

Pros: runs, looks, installs good

Cons: feels like xp with facelift

Review: I didn't see much improvement from xp except it looks good. Xp has no problem why upgrade and price is not cheap.

User Rating: 8/10

Good OS, bad CNET review

Pros: better stability

Cons: Some applications still unstable

Review: I would first like to point out that CNET is WRONG about the compatibility wizard. Just click on properties on any file and you can apply compatibility settings to any program. How CNET could easily overlook that this is how it was done in previous Windows versions is beyond me, but CNET is pretty good about making mistakes. CNET seems to not spend much time reviewing the product.

As for Windows Vista RC2, I have found the experience considerably more stable than with RC1. I am seeing far less crashes than with RC2, but I still feel that the UI is inconsistent. Old applications all feel like pre-Vista, whereas Vista applications have a different UI. This leaves a very inconsistent UI.
I like the visual look of Vista better than XP Luna, but I could do without the default of transparency. Transparency has been an option since Win2K, but I generally don't think it has a lot of purpose in most cases. Make it easy to use, but I think that it shouldn't be default even if your system supports Vista's Aero Glass.

I am still depressed by the exclusion of the old help viewer. Sure Microsoft wants to push their new help system, but this is going to cause a lot of complaints from people using older software.

Internet Explorer 7 copys a lot of ideas from Firefox, Opera, and even Safari. They have included Safari's option to delete the browsing history. They included tabs like Opera and Firefox. Heck, the tab loading even looks similar to Safari! The phishing filter is a good idea, although I don't think it is a good replacement for good user education. It may give users a false sense of security if the phishing filter doesn't catch the phish. Nevertheless it seems to catch everything I threw at it. I like that IE dropped the stupid Go button. It looked really lame. They also dropped the unpopular image toolbar. Neither users nor webmasters really liked the idea. I found the exclusion of Java understandable, but the exclusion of Flash rather odd. Is this Microsoft's attack against Flash? The search toolbar is there too a la Safari/Opera/Firefox, but it only by default includes Microsoft's Live. Pretty lame, although it is possible to add additional search engines with a few clicks of the mouse. Hopefully Microsoft will make it easier to use other search engines even if Live is the default.

I still managed to crash several of the included applications, which is surprising, but it is much better than it was with RC1.

All said, if you love Mac OSX you'll love Vista, if you hate OSX, you'll hate Vista. Some ideas like the start menu remain, albeit much better polished, but Vista borrows heavily from OSX's graphics and even UI concepts. For how many years Microsoft has developed Vista I am depressed, but it is pretty good so far. It is overall much better than XP, but not enough to justify the price for most customers.

User Rating: 9/10

The review is off!!

Pros: Everything in Vista Works!!!

Cons: User Account Control Pops up On Everything

Review: The reviewer's review is off, all the things he mentioned that didn't work, do work on my test station. And program compatibility is there, just have to right-click on what you want to run, and choose "Run as..."
Vista runs smooth and clean on my machine. All functions work nice. And not one function ever failed. This test version of vista is complete as far as I'm concerned, albeit, except drivers. Which I'm sure will all come out. I give Windows Vista 9 out of 10 for now. People are just not setting it up right on thier system. There are no missing icons or this and that.

User Rating: 10/10

Good upgrade from Windows XP

Pros: Security; UI

Cons: System requirements

Review: I give it 10 to even out with the 1's of M$ bashers.

User Rating: 6/10

Pretty good, but still an RC

Pros: Great new look, surprisingly quick, great feature set

Cons: incomplete heardware compatibility, easy but long install

Review: When I ran Windows Vista RC2 I was unimpressed with a 40-50 minute install, even though after a few screens of initial info (user name, key code, etc.) I could walk away. I was very impressed with hardware compatibilty on my desktop system. The only driver that was not loaded was for my Canoscan scanner, but Canon tech support said they would probably release a driver after Vista was released to the public. I was also very impressed with how quick the OS was, even on my midrange system (AMD64 3500+, on board nVidia 6100 graphics, and 1 GB ram). Vista looks fantastic, but I didn't have enough time to explore all the new features. I had to revert back to XP because two external pieces of hardware that I use everyday (HP iPaq Pocket PC and an iPod) just didn't work well with Vista. I expect that by final release these issues with external devices will be resolved. I wish I had more time to check for software compatibilty, but the few programs I did load seemed to work well. I had downloaded a free version of AVG anti-virus. It wouldn't load initially, but Vista automatically tried to relaod it with new settings and it worked fine. The only two programs that would not work were already documented as incompatible - Nero and Norton Ghost. Again, these issues weren't surprising for an RC. What was surprising was the very high degree of quality, functionality, stability and speed. I am looking forward to the final release although I will probably wait several months to purchase it to make sure compatibility issues will be resolved as far as possible.

User Rating: 1/10

WINDOW VISTA SUCKS!!!!

Pros: WINDOW VISTA SUCKS!!!!

Cons: WINDOW VISTA SUCKS!!!!

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User Rating: 7/10

A very clean, modern looking facelift to xp.

Pros: Nice crisp graphics

Cons: A bit heavy on the system requirements.

Review: Better access to files and folders, with the new side-bar and nice 3D graphics. Needs a lot more work though to sort the amount of error?s and exception?s. With older hardware and software it tends to be a bit fussy what it likes to run with.

User Rating: 5/10

I'm anxious for the final release.

Pros: The look is beautiful, the features are great.

Cons: It still has some bugs to it.

Review: I found the install to be rather slow, but it wasn't a big concern as I left and went and did other things while it installed. I really like the visuals and interface of Vista. It can be a bit confusing navigating through things though, especially on the control panel.

I've had a couple programs that had compatibility issues with it, but nothing of a real big deal. Nero 6 will install, it will not burn audio discs but will burn dvd discs for me. I had McAfee under MCE 2005, but it will not work with Vista, I also am having issues with PC Cillin getting it's updates. I'll probably try AVG.

I've not noticed a huge consumption of memory from this OS, I'm running 768 mb of RAM and haven't experienced too many problems of drag. My only hardware issue is my video card is too slow. Which isn't a big deal for me right now. I don't really use my computer for anything other then browsing, chatting, and listening to music anyway.

I really like the way Vista's MC looks with the X Box 360, very nice. There are a few bugs encountered with that, but I'm sure most of it will be worked out.

I like the OS, it has great potential to be better than XP with features and functions. Computers are much like humans, no 2 really act alike. Which is why they're doing these beta versions I hope, to try and make a solid OS.

User Rating: 6/10

Windows Vista RC2

Pros: more help for new users.

Cons: glitchy (buggy)

Review: It can be slow, but still
mostly over all feel comparied
to Windows Xp, well it is sad that
Microsoft is the one making this
more complicated and harder for ppl
to make there mind if they will ever upgrade.

User Rating: 8/10

its very good

Pros: good and lively interface

Cons: need a good system

Review:

User Rating: 7/10

Much better than the last beta

Pros: Very pretty, so far everything works, kinda

Cons: Windows media player real blocky choppy off color wma, mpg video playback

Review: Very pretty. Liked the vertical tool or toy bar. Upgrade from last beta didn't work. Clean install worked well. Had to find audio driver for realtek AC97. Don't know about the $400 price tag. Still playing with it learning how to make it work. Almost like learning a new release of one of the linuxes. (Ubuntu, ect.)

User Rating: 3/10

windows vista is way not ready !!

Pros: I like the look of it and all the new software it have

Cons: it still really buggy and lots of thing dont work right.. a few thing on my pc didnt work like sound and some of the graphics. and software like to freeze up..

Review: I think thay have lots of work to do.. I think thay could go at least another year and still have stuff to fix on it.. so far only widows I like and that worked right is 98..

User Rating: 5/10

What have Microsoft been doing for the last 5 years?

Pros: Search and more polish interface

Cons: Buggy, incompatible with many softwares

Review: I have been playing with multiple versions of Windows Vista since pre Beta 2. So far I'm not impress with its compatibility and how buggy it is. I'm just not impress with with this version of Windows, especially being waiting so long with XP. All its features are already available on my buddy MacOS X.

User Rating: 3/10

Stay with XP

Pros: Attractive, visually well designed interface

Cons: Lethargic,

Review: I don't know why I keep trying Vista but I do. I keep hoping that it's not as bad as the last time I installed it, but it is. Visually, it is very well designed. That is it's ONLY good point. My PC's performance was drastically slowed while using it and, according to Microsoft my system meets the requirements to run Vista.

Personally, I will be keeping XP for a long time.

User Rating: 9/10

One word...Awesome

Pros: Graphics, .NET 3.0, Security

Cons: Prepare to upgrade...

Review:

User Rating: 9/10

Windows Vista is Best OS to date.....

Pros: Stable OS so far. I like the Aero interface

Cons: Nero 7 dont work but Nero is releasing Test version soon ok.

Review: The Rc2 is still in Beta Stages. Its not Final code yet people. I REPEAT its in Beta Stages. Its not an RTM (Release to Manufacturing) version. So stop saying its bad os right now. And the Compatibility Wizard is found in Rc2 5744 Build. Just Right click on Program and Properties its there. Another Method is under Help and Support section and type Compatibility Wizard you will find it there. I dont know what cnet is saying its Missing from Rc2. Also it takes 20 mins to install a fresh copy of Vista in Rc2. I am running 2 and half years old pc. Its P4 3.00GHZ, 1Gb of Ram, and 256Mb video card Ati and on Intel Motherboard. Its running faster then Rc1 ok. Its less Memory Hog in Rc2 now. The vista is Stable so far. The person who said his pc is six months old from Gateway and not running properly. It could be he has 512Mb Memory (ram) ok. Take my Word and you wont be Disapointed in Vista Rc2. Its an Impressive OS. You can wait until they release the Final Code and release in January 2007 if you dont trust me. Also XP with Sp2 was Stable. Windows 95, 98, Me. I can believe it crashed with blue screens of death. Because i have Experienced it. But since XP was launched the Reliablity was Improved and with XP Sp2 its more stable XP. And Vista is more Stable then XP. Since its build on windows 2003 server code. I am writing this review from Vista Rc2 5744 Build. It has running for few days without problems. I rated 9 because no OS is perfect. Even humans are not Perfect. Bye take care

User Rating: 2/10

Pure trash

Pros: Ok its cooler....and tats it...

Cons: Every thing.....reli......it doesnt include many things essentail

Review: IT SUKS AND IS TRASH...Dont buy it.....

User Rating: 4/10

We were expecting greater from microsoft.

Pros: nothing about this

Cons: have no idea

Review: We were trying to look for something that is better and more reliable than windows XP.
We people are always expecting too much from you. But this is not a great thing to happen from such a great company. We demand something better , which is worth buying.

User Rating: 4/10

Microsoft should have had consumer test this product before release.

Pros: Microsoft is still on top of there selve and keeping up with with the styles of there younger custermers.

Cons: Microsoft should have given more time before the release or even anoucing there product.

Review:

User Rating: 1/10

There is not one driver that works with Vista RC2

Pros: Non What so ever (Nothing works at all)

Cons: There is not one driver that works with Vista RC2

Review: Windows Vista is the Buggiest and most un-compatible Windows ever made, i don't know what Microsoft is thinking? There is not one driver that works with Vista RC2.
It crashes so many times, i had to Format about 30-40 Times after getting the Blue Screen of Death, because of crashed drivers and bad updates that cause more crashes. I Do not recommend this for anyone.

User Rating: 7/10

Has more bugs than RC1, long install time

Pros: Good user interface, some bugs have been fixed.

Cons: Many bugs are still there, plus some new ones.

Review: I really don't have the time to write a big review, so I'll say this: I would never in a million years pay, uh, what was it, $299 for a Windows. Never. I was already puzzled on how RC1 was not considered a beta with its many bugs. Now this one comes out, and it should be RC1, but just barely. This is what happens when you make Windows fancy: There is just more things to go wrong. Also, The install time is exceptionally long. It took me an hour and 20 minutes to install Vista on a 3 month old high-end PC. It took me 25 minutes to re-install Windows XP on to that PC a week later after I was done trying Vista. I think I will stay with XP for a while, even after Vista comes out.

User Rating: 4/10

Wife hates it, it works for me

Pros: more stable, faster internet

Cons: Ugly and slow

Review: I really don't mind it, anything from Microsoft works for me a pretty trustworthy company. My wife on the other hand hates it and I've already removed RC2 from her machine after 3 days. She had RC1 for about a month. She doesn't like the look at all and says things just aren't in a very organized manner. Only one of our computers can run the Aero graphics even though they are both less then 6months old. Who is microsoft selling these upgrades to? I was able to update a 6 year old PC to XP and have it do everything but my 6 month old Gateway can't handle it, doesn't seem right.

User Rating: 7/10

Review is quite biased... Had no problemsinstalling..

Pros: Smooth interface. Functionsl robustly.

Cons: Unsure of the Laptop battery ?

Review: I installed this on Desktop hence I am not sure of the battery timing. But the review sounds very grumpy. Like a mac fanatic reviewing Vista..

Generally had no problem installing and functionally looks robust enough but occassionaly the system some time to respond. Perhaps the reviewer should notice that this Beta written all over it.. ! So mentioning of purchasing Vista has got no place...

Look forward for the production version...

User Rating: 1/10

Hackers Rejoice over Vista Release

Pros: Absolutely none

Cons: Everything you can think of

Review: Reviewing a beta product. Another new low in "journalism."
http://www.teckmagazine.com/content/view/690/43/

User Rating: 6/10

RC1 was a disaster!

Pros: GUI, Presentation, More Control Panel

Cons: Resource Hungry

Review: Old habits die hard! add hardware wizard is still old win2000 style. very difficult to find things. I still don't undertand the address bar logic. does not require fatty Display card for aero but require memory and processor. Not a solid build as it does not even support the latest 2007 version of antivirus and other software

User Rating: 8/10

Buggier than RC1, but review is flawed.

Pros: Gorgeous, even without Aero. More enjoyable computing experience.

Cons: High requirements, RC2 buggier than RC1 when it comes to software compatibility, steep learning curve for some.

Review: I enjoy the Vista RC's. The only problem I have with this release is the compatibility bugs. I typically run AVG Free Edition for antivirus. It worked on RC1, but not RC2. Nero also doesn't work, but then it didn't work on RC1 either. Those are the only two programs I've had trouble with so far. The improvements from RC1 to RC2 are negligible and if you're currently using RC1, I'd say stick with it. Also, the CNET review is flawed. It says RC2 doesn't have the Program Compatibility Wizard. I don't know where they're getting this from, as I still have it in mine. Just right click on the program you want to run, click properties, and on the last tab you can select the compatibility wizard and which windows version you want it to run under.

User Rating: 9/10

I think it's excellent

Pros: Great graphics, easy install, runs fast w/ 64 bit cpu

Cons: takes some work to make older 32 bit apps to work

Review: I've been using 5744 for several days now, the media center features are great, as are most other parts of the OS - The article mentioned that the Program Compatibility Wizard was not present, NOT TRUE! I have used it several times - not always with good luck, had some trouble with Premiere Elements - but otherwise okay - Over all, I like this better than the previous build, I would have waited to buy Vista based 5564, based on this one I'll get it right away. The most important thing to me is that it looks so much better than XP - And the Media Center software is significantly more refined than version 2005 - a much more pleasurable experience! Good job Microsoft.

User Rating: 2/10

Too Heavy and slow

Pros: Really Beautiful

Cons: Memory Eater

Review: What You See is What You Get, it's beautiful but ... oh my god.. toooo heavy.
I think Windows Vista = Windows Me , they both will not last for one year.
Sayonara Windows Vista, i'll better wait for your next generation.

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