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"a good sequel to windows xp"
on by brianthesnail123Pros nice g.u.i ,and ease of use
Cons lack of drivers and software
Summary the first thing you notice about vista when you use it is the much improved g.u.i and the way it locates drivers and installs the nessecary drivers
i installed a goodmans g-shot video camera and although i had inserted the driver cd in the drive it found the drivers by going on-line which impressed me
the display drivers were not too hard to find,as i was using a nvidia 6200 card,and i located the drivers and downloaded them
when i installed them ,i got the normal warning that they were not digitally signed,so like xp i continued anyway,and once i finished installing the drivers a restart was required
i was then able to enable the aero themes to the desktop which include a 3d desktop were you can scroll through your pages while on-line and then pick whichever you need to use,excellent
the vista control panel is much improved from xp and some of the options from xp have been split into sub catergorys for easy locating
vista has also include a scoring system which rates your p.c,s quality while using vista,its scores cpu,ram graphic quality and then gives a base line score which you can compare on-line
it also tells you how to improve your score in terms of upgrading
although microsoft recommend 512mb ram to run windows i would recommend 1gb as a minimun,as i use 1.5gb and this seems just about right
with regards to the graphics card requirements,you need a card that is capable of pixel and shader model 2.0 and at least 64mb ram,but i recommend at least 128mb ram and pixel and shader model 3.0,you can pick these up quite cheap if you shop around
the inclusion of the trusty media center is a added bonus,especially to users who havent seen it before,its great for anyone who uses their p.c as the center of their multimedia tasks
speech recognition has been added to vista and is remarkebly easy to set up,it only took me around 10 minutes to start dictating and producing text
however the one problem with vista i found was the lack of drivers,only nvidia and ati having produced drivers for display and very few if any device drivers,but i suppose the companys want to wait until the final build is released so they will have error free drivers
with regards to software,i have tried various programs on vista,another new addition vista has included is a option that looks for a solution on-line if a certain program fails to work on vista,but to date,it hasent found any solution for me
there are a few anti-virus programs that are vista compatible including one-care live which works well with my version,and the trusted spybot and adaware personal both work well with vista
the sidebar is a good addition to vista,and can be configured to suit your own needs
vista,s wallpapers and scrensavers are pretty disapointing in my opinion but you can use your own images and there are plenty avalible on-line
the new vista music composed by robert fripp is a warm sounding intro and the system sounds have not really changed much but are much clearer sounding
i am using vista with a athlon 3200+.1.5gb ram and a nvidia ge-force 6200(256mb) and report no problems with vista,the one thing i did notice is the installation time which considering the size of vista(2.2gb dvd)installed in just 35 minutes comapred to my windows xp(sp2) which takes around 40 minutes to install,this is due to improved installtion technology that microsoft have used in vista
windows vista will be critisised by many comentators but give it a few years and it will be the standard in home computing
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"So...what's the point?"
on by ThPengiunsRCominPros It still does everything XP already does...
Cons Uses more resources, nothing impressively new.
Summary Let's be honest, all that Vista turned out to be is a flashy looking version of XP. In some ways, that's great, but honestly, so what? I don't see any reason why people should have to get a high-end PC (which you'd have to if you want to run Vista) so that they can simply get a fancier looking XP.
Vista has been presented as being the most secure Windows to date, and many people point to User Account Controls as an example of that. In my opinion, this does not make my computer any more secure than XP did. All it did was prompt me (sometimes 2 or 3 times) anytime I tried to run an installer, binary, or sometimes even executables. I shouldn't need to verify everything I do repeatedly, and if they are going to implement this, they should make it much easier to turn off. I still dislike the way that Windows Security Center only lets you LOOK at your security status. You don't have the option of turning things on or off on the same window, and why they can't change this is beyond me.
As for the security of Vista itself, it's mostly just hearsay. Since it's using a -slightly- newer coding version (only slightly), there are some malware/virus types that it will no longer be affected by. But this certainly doesn't apply to the majority of problems, and the change in the source coding is so slight that a few weeks of practice will allow a good coder to learn the changes the implemented in the system. So in a month, maybe two tops, there will probably be security issues coming out of the woodwork just like XP had.
As for the stability they are boasting, I saw no improvements. My computer actually crashed the first 4 times I tried to boot it after I installed Vista (and this was on RC2, not even a full beta). I still found myself intimately familiar with my CTRL+ALT+DEL keys and the task manager as well. Although many people think that MS stole the interface from OS X, they clearly didn't steal the source. If you want true reliability, you'll still need to make a switch to Linux or Mac, as this is no better than XP.
So the real selling point boils down to the new glassy Aero look. Which, in reality, will probably sell millions of copies to the everyday consumer. I, however, am not impressed. The focus of an OS isn't supposed to be how it looks. It's supposed to be stability, security, and interface. I saw no noticeable stability improvements and the interface is essentially the same, just a new skin. Want a flashy looking XP? Buy Windowsblinds, they make a Vista skin that is almost an exact replica. Don't waste the money on an OS overhaul istead.Updated
Let's be honest, all that Vista turned out to be is a flashy looking version of XP. In some ways, that's great, but honestly, so what? I don't see any reason why people should have to get a high-end PC (which you'd have to if you want to run Vista) so that they can simply get a fancier looking XP.
Vista has been presented as being the most secure Windows to date, and many people point to User Account Controls as an example of that. In my opinion, this does not make my computer any more secure than XP did. All it did was prompt me (sometimes 2 or 3 times) anytime I tried to run an installer, binary, or sometimes even executables. I shouldn't need to verify everything I do repeatedly, and if they are going to implement this, they should make it much easier to turn off. I still dislike the way that Windows Security Center only lets you LOOK at your security status. You don't have the option of turning things on or off on the same window, and why they can't change this is beyond me.
As for the security of Vista itself, it's mostly just hearsay. Since it's using a -slightly- newer coding version (only slightly), there are some malware/virus types that it will no longer be affected by. But this certainly doesn't apply to the majority of problems, and the change in the source coding is so slight that a few weeks of practice will allow a good coder to learn the changes the implemented in the system. So in a month, maybe two tops, there will probably be security issues coming out of the woodwork just like XP had.
As for the stability they are boasting, I saw no improvements. My computer actually crashed the first 4 times I tried to boot it after I installed Vista (and this was on RC2, not even a full beta). I still found myself intimately familiar with my CTRL+ALT+DEL keys and the task manager as well. Although many people think that MS stole the interface from OS X, they clearly didn't steal the source. If you want true reliability, you'll still need to make a switch to Linux or Mac, as this is no better than XP.
So the real selling point boils down to the new glassy Aero look. Which, in reality, will probably sell millions of copies to the everyday consumer. I, however, am not impressed. The focus of an OS isn't supposed to be how it looks. It's supposed to be stability, security, and interface. I saw no noticeable stability improvements and the interface is essentially the same, just a new skin. Want a flashy looking XP? Buy Windowsblinds, they make a Vista skin that is almost an exact replica. Don't waste the money on an OS overhaul istead. -
"Pretty good, but ugly pricing"
on by xxdesmusxxPros Visually attractive, WPF-powered Apps, Search, Networking, the list goes on and on...
Cons Pricing is ridiculous, way too high per computer
Summary It feels pretty responsive now, but there is the occasional slow down. A plethora of the features in Vista are "under the hood" and therefore it's kind of hard to get a grasp on all the features. I think we will see some very cool applications coming out soon (based on WPF). Price? I think the pricing is ridiculous. I think $400 for 1 copy for 1 computer is a joke. $400 should get you 1 copy and 3 licenses (for 3 separate computers), but we all know that's wishful thinking that will never happen.
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"Vista is not such a good deal."
on by Jimf011Pros Love the media center.
Cons Everything else - slow, not compatable with most of my software.
Summary Wait until more drivers are available. Stick with XP for a year.
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"Not just a pretty face!"
on by SteveG_UKPros Some real, solid improvements both in useability and functionality
Cons Upgrade procedures need urgent attention. Cost?
Summary I've been using 'home computers' since before PCs existed (anyone for Superdos?)
Been 'in the business' since 1991.
I've seen, and worked with, every offering from Microsoft.
Every time; they claim it's going to be faster. It never is; it's usually slower - but I expect that.
EVERY time a new OS is released there are cries of 'it's no good ....'. My experience is that there are always improvements but people tend to comment before they've put in the effort (and it does require effort) to really find out what a new OS 'is about'.
My experience with beta versions of Vista were disappointing (to say the least).
I received the RTM Vista Business upgrade a few days ago.
The upgrade was a nightmare. The online advisor assured me there were going to be no problems (apart from an old version of Nero which I uninstalled). It fibs!
My test machine was running RAID 0 (SATA). I wasted hours just to keep seeing the same blue screen of death (with no pointer to a resolution). That the advisor says otherwise is very, very poor. Wake up Microsoft.
At this point my user rating should be a solid 1 (abysmal).
I so nearly threw the whole lot in the bin; but persisted and installed to a single SATA drive (without incident).
And I'm so glad that I did persist.
I've now had three days of exploring Vista 'in anger' and I have to say that, despite my usual cynicism, I think it's tremendous. A bigger leap than the change from Windows 3.1(1) to '95.
Three days and NOTHING has crashed.
I must warn at this point that the machine I'm using is fairly quick (Index Base Score of 5.0).
Further information: It's part of a domain (SBS 2003) and also has some other obscure/exotic bits.
The first couple of hours were spent just trying to find where the familiar bits and pieces had gone, changes to explorer etc etc. I have to admit it was probably an hour before I realised that, despite the upgrade acknowledging I was on a domain, I was actually logged onto the local account. And then another 10 minutes figuring out how to get the default logon to access the domain. Sloppy again Microsoft!
But now to the good stuff.
Vista ISN'T just about visuals. It is very pretty - but I think enough (too much) has already been said about that.
Running Vista feels smooth - this may not be very technical but, if you use PCs a lot, you'll know what I mean.
I'm not (yet) 100% sold on the new visuals for Windows Explorer but the functionality of copies, renames, moves etc within explorer is vastly improved.
I've seen lots of complaints about 'User Account Control' being inhibiting. Personally, I think the only question is how effective it will prove to be. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. That people, at this early stage, appear to be disabling it; I find disturbing.
I'm astounded by how well it runs existing applications. Applications that I was convinced wouldn't run, do so flawlessly. In fact one application that XP required affinity to be set to CPU 0 to avoid glitches, runs perfectly in Vista. Still early days but, apart from Nero (as mentioned), I've hit no problems so far.
Media Player 11 with XP is impressive - With Vista it's awesome.
My aging Photosmart P1100 isn't supported - but there again it was about a year before a stable driver was produced for XP. In fact Vista responded to a kludge so that it does at least print now - albeit without all the bells and whistles.
I can't begin to do Vista justice in a short review. What I will say is:
If you've used and hate it - try putting some work in. It really is unreasonable to expect to extract full benefit from an operating system by intuition alone. And therein lies the problem; so many people seem to think that expertise comes by osmosis (if that makes sense!).
If you've not used it - don't be put off by the doom-mongers. Though whether it's worth the cost; only you can decide.
So, from a 1 rating to a 8. But for the upgrade fiasco it would have been a 9 - and I don't give 9's easily.